Talk:The Atlas Society

Intellectual heir
This is a phrase coined by Ayn Rand and only used by her followers. When others use it, it is usually in quotes. AFAIK, Rand never explicity defined the term. It is clearly not NPOV and should be removed unless someone can explain to me why isn't. --dm (talk) 21:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know of any evidence that Rand coined the term; do you have citatiions? Regardless, a quick Google confirms there are plenty of instances where the term is used in a different context, and without the scare quotes.  The reason for the quotes in the case of Rand is to show that she used those words in specific, rather than the term being a paraphrase.  I don't see how the term could inherently be POV, even if it was coined by Rand.  You're going to need to explain this. Alienus 21:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * There are two issues here. One is whether Rand used the phrase.  The other is whether she ever conferred the title on Leonard Peikoff.  Whatever you may think of the notion (personally, I regard it as unfortunate), Rand did publicly proclaim Nathaniel Branden her intellectual heir.  After Nathaniel Branden was given the boot, Leonard Peikoff eventually became the sole heir to her estate, but where is she on record saying that Leonard Peikoff was her intellectual heir?  Peikoff is on record claiming the title for himself, but that isn't quite the same thing. -RLCampbell (talk) 14:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

non-Objectivist cooperation
I have eliminated a statement saying that TOC is willing to work with non-Objectivists on "joint projects" (implying that ARI isn't) because ARI does so as well; they often invite people like Daniel Pipes to speak at their events and sell the works of Ludwig von Mises and Thomas Sowell. They've also (I believe) worked with Wafa Sultan. 24.25.214.253 23:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Canvassing alert
An objectivist group is canvassing its members to edit Ayn Rand related articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Turnsmoney (talk • contribs) 18:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there any evidence that active canvassing is going on? If not, shouldn't the charge be withdrawn?-RLCampbell (talk) 14:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering that the comment was made back on January 21, by an editor who hasn't made any edits since January 22, I believe the point is moot. --RL0919 (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Political labeling
An IP editor has repeatedly attempted to insert the label "right-wing" into the lead, based on an interpretation of the organization's Instagram posts. This is obvious original research, so I have reverted this description. In the spirit of WP:BRD, I'm opening a discussion here. --RL0919 (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Third-party RS coverage?
Is there any third-party RS coverage of the Atlas Society? The sources here are two primary sources, a press release and a book. Looking at the book, it only has passing mentions of any of the names "Institute for Objectivist Studies", "Objectivist Center" or "Atlas Society" - it notes their existence, but nothing of substance. Looking for third-party RSes, I find a pile of passing mentions and a lot of press releases - but no RS coverage in depth. Is there any? - David Gerard (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There was previously one other book reference in the article - but I got hold of it, and it turned out to be written by David Kelley and published by ... the Atlas Society! - David Gerard (talk) 08:19, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thinking this should be redirected to David Kelley, in the absence of third-party RS coverage of the Atlas Society itself - David Gerard (talk) 10:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Independent reliable sources providing substantial coverage include the books Ayn Rand by Mimi Reisel Gladstein, Ayn Rand Nation by Gary Weiss, The Ayn Rand Cult by Jeff Walker, Ayn Rand Explained by Ronald Merrill, and Radicals for Capitalism by Brian Doherty. --RL0919 (talk) 19:13, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * nice one, ty! - David Gerard (talk) 21:08, 13 November 2021 (UTC)