Talk:The Awakening (sculpture)

Date of move
But WHY was it moved (feb 20, 08) ? No reason is given for this. And who was the sculpture modeled after? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.187.21.24 (talk) 23:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Why February 20 in particular? Probably convenience.  I doubt you'll find a reliable source about why that's the date they chose.  As for if it's modeled after someone, I'm guessing it's not modeled after anyone in particular, but again, it needs a source.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

New coordinates?
Anyone have the new coordinates? It's not visible in the imagery yet. I think we should keep the old coordinates, too, though it'd be nice to find a way to label them as the previous location. Rmarquet (talk) 01:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

26/5/2011 I've found the image on Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=nl&geocode=&q=National+Harbor,+Washington+Metro,+Oxon+Hill,+MD,+United+States&aq=0&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=55.455479,66.09375&ie=UTF8&hq=National+Harbor,&hnear=Oxon+Hill,+Prince+George%27s+County,+Maryland&ll=38.785125,-77.017037&spn=0.000844,0.001009&t=h&z=20 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.122.168.19 (talk) 15:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Just looked at my geocoded photos taken of the sculpture over the weekend and confirmed the current coords are correct for the current location of the statue. This can also be confirmed via Google Maps, though the sat imagery is quite out of date, showing the construction site and unimproved coastline of the now-completed development. 72.5.150.149 (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

How big is it, really?
In other reading about this sculpture, I notice that there are conflicting statements about the size. (This article describes it as 100 feet. Another as 50 feet.) I wonder if there is an authoritative statement of it size that can be cited in this article? 206.53.196.254 (talk) 16:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

That top photo
I think that top photo is phony. I think it's a doctored photo. I've been to the old site. This seems wrong and it looks doctored. BradyDale (talk) 16:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Doesn't look as though it's doctored at first glance, but let's discuss. What elements of the photo make it appear doctored?  Compare to one of the same part of the sculpture that I took at the old location in 2003: .  That photo of mine is definitely not doctored, but it is at a slightly different angle.  If the photo is actually inaccurate, then it needs to go, but if it's fine, I see no reason not to keep it around.  Your thoughts?  SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:06, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * SchuminWeb,I guess it's just such a small photo and I don't remember the area past it being so empty and clear. If I were at home I could look at some of my own old photos. They are all pre digital. BradyDale (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Is or has been in Italy--copy?
OK, I have found out that Seward Johnson's "The Awakening" is or has been installed in at least three places in Italy, where it's called "Il Risveglio." These places were: the Piazza Marconi in the Eur quarter of Rome; something called Valle Faul in Viterbo, and the Piazza Duomo on the Island of Ortigia in Siracusa. I'm pretty sure that at least the Eur one was a temporary installation, which suggests that it was one, traveling. I can't seem to find out if the others were all temporary, or if one of them is permanent. And if all of the installations were temporary, I wonder if it was the one that was on Hains Point and now in National Harbor, on loan (which seems very unlikely), or if it was the one that is now in Missouri, or if it is yet another copy. Uporządnicki (talk) 16:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Much as I'd love to, I don't think we can do that "See Also"
, much as it pains me, I don't think we can keep that "See Also" that you just added. See my comment above, dating from 2014. I'd LOVE to see this article address the "The Awakening" (Il Risveglio) in Italy. Something like it has also been in the Eur neighborhood of Rome, and in Viterbo. I now think that they're one and the same, and it was installed temporarily in those locations before coming to Siracusa. I've found pictures and references on line, but nothing I think I can use to add the information myself. But I don't think we can address it as a "See Also"--essentially inviting people to "see also" an article that doesn't exist. Perhaps it could be an "External Link," if it is crafted a bit better. One more note: It is not at "Place Cathedral" (the cathedral of a city called Place? the Diocese of Place? Saint Place?? never heard of that one--and I'm a Catholic!). You translated (or had a computer translate) "Piazza Duomo" so painfully literally that the very meaning got lost. Yes, I suppose "piazza" is cognate with "place," but it refers to a city square. Duomo is a cathedral, yes. So it's Cathedral Square--the city square in front of the Duomo Siracusa--the Cathedral of the Catholic Archdiocese of Syracuse (Italy, not New York). Uporządnicki (talk) 23:37, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, it seems I had things kind of backwards. Now, I find that this copy in Italy was installed first at Cathedral Square in Siracusa, in April 2009.  In December 2009, it was moved to Rome, and set up in Marconi Plaza in EUR, Rome. Then in May 2011, it was moved to Viterbo, to a location called Valle di Faul, where it is now. I'll examine my source, and consider adding the info. Uporządnicki (talk) 01:24, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * When I wrote the first post in this topic, I attempted to ping a User, whose edit I was discussing. I've just now discovered that through a coding/punctuation error (square brackets where I should have used curly braces), what I actually accomplished was to provide an enigmatic link to the Wikipedia article on the letter U.  I hope I've fixed it now. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * The Awakening Statue - Chesterfield, MO.jpg

Top picture
It is the location of Chesterfield, Missouri and not in the original location of Haines Point, DC. Needs correct edit for the location. 2600:6C51:637F:DC51:7D7E:4B6B:9B28:15CE (talk) 08:11, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I've been looking around on line, and I'm not sure you're right about that. To me, it looks more like Hains Point. Uporządnicki (talk) 12:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * They were right. It is in Chesterfield Missouri now.
 * I took my Goddaughter there to see the giant as it is commonly called here. We had a lot of fun-took a lot of pictures, etc.
 * The giant as it is referenced here-is still immersed partially in mother Earth, and loving it. 2600:6C40:5D00:2463:CC54:F1DA:3F9A:8B3E (talk) 10:11, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The one in Chesterfield is a copy. If you look at the picture here, there's a river behind it.  I looked on Google Maps just now; the only river nearby, the Missouri River, is over a mile away.  There are a couple of lakes closer by, but you can't see them from the site of the sculpture. Uporządnicki (talk) 10:23, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed that a couple of months before you posted your first comment, there was a discussion about deleting a photo of the sculpture in Chesterfield; it was removed over a copyright issue. Perhaps that's what you were seeing back then.  But the photo in the article now is certainly not the one in Chesterfield.  I saw the one in Hains Point while it was there, and while it was many years ago (obviously), I don't see anything in the photo to suggest that it is not Hains Point.  Uporządnicki (talk) 10:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)