Talk:The Bahamas

Why?
did user:Materialscientist revert here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The%20Bahamas&diff=1142182817 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D465:4D6F:4EBE:845D (talk) 00:01, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Because the added content was sourced to twitter, which is a self-published source, and cannot normally be used as a source in Wikipedia. Donald Albury 01:35, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


 * (same ip editor responding) - First of all, there were two sources. Second of all, as to use of Twitter, it may be used by a notable person (which he certainly is) as to his opinion - which was how it was used. It is not self-serving, there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity, it supports the accuracy of the person having stated it, and the Wikipedia article is not based primarily on such sources - just the opposite. It's the opinion of a highly notable economist. In his area of expertise. We have massive use across the Project of opinions of notable persons, stated on Twitter. It has in-text attribution. Same as the perfectly acceptable "The feminist Betty Friedan wrote that...", and "According to the Marxist economist Harry Magdoff..." There is no blp issue. We even have an optional format at wp for citing tweets (Template:Cite tweet). No wp-based reason has been given, either in the edit summary or here, as to why it should be deleted, given these circumstances. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:78D9:A3A:3F15:6345 (talk) 02:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The Street is also not reliable. It would be undue to feature this view so prominently if reliable sources about The Bahamas do not mention it. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:49, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Why do you think TheStreet is not reliable? 2) Do you agree that Twitter is fine to use, where as here it is a tweet by a notable economist on the subject of his expertise, is not self-serving, there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity (it is from his verified account), it is an expression of his opinion about the financial regulation of the Bahamas, we have massive use of Twitter across the project, there is no blp issue, and we at wp have an optional format for tweets? 3) Shouldn't there be an edit summary for a deletion such as the one here; none was given. 4) We try to stay away from arguing NPOV when its a reliably sourced opinion to a notable expert in the field; plus, the "so prominently" characterization does not apply to what was deleted. 5) Maybe some tweet users have thoughts on this, who are not Bahama-specific in their interest but wp-using-tweets-experienced - pinging Wikipedian in Residence user:Pigsonthewing, user:Jonesey95.2603:7000:2101:AA00:78D9:A3A:3F15:6345 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I was pinged but I have no connection to this discussion at all, and I have no opinion on this content dispute. Good luck! – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:21, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Same here. IP editor: don't do that. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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What is the name of this country?
The article uses "the Bahamas" and "The Bahamas" indiscriminately. Maproom (talk) 10:15, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The official name is "Commonwealth of The Bahamas". There have been a fair number of electrons spilled over whether Wikipedia should use "The Bahamas" or "Bahamas/the Bahamas" as the name of the country. I will note that official Bahamas government web pages are also inconsistent on this point. Donald Albury 15:25, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Population estimate
The source cited for the 2022 census population,, gives a preliminary population for the country of 399,314 on April 22, 2022. The article showed, until I removed it, a 2023 population estimate of 358,508. There was no source cited for the estimate, but the figure appears to have been taken from, which we usually treat as a reliable source. That estimate indicates a 10% reduction in the country's population in one year, an event that I think would have produced large headlines in the news. Since it has been only one year since the government census was taken, I do not believe that it is critical to have a 2023 estimate in the article for the time being. Any ideas? Donald Albury 22:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)