Talk:The Beginning and the End, or "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"

Kaworu
Kaworu (and Rei) both have souls, period (For my full argument see the Angles discussion page).The Twilight Goddess 20:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Quotes
In light of the last edit, it might be a good idea to either try to incorporate quotes into the bodies of the episode articles to supplement points made about the series, or to move them to Wikiquote. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 13:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Stand firm, Willbyr. There was nothing un-encyclopedia about that section.  At worst, we move everything to Wikiquote (we did this for Venture Bros. as well, so just copying what VB did will provide a good framwork).--Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 22:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture
This article desperately needs a picture of Kaworu from the episode...mainly so it can be used to substitute for the other images of Kaworu that are currently being used right now but are dubiously sourced. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 04:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks to BrokenSphere. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Animals and AT fields
In the Notes section, it states that Kaworu says that every living thing has an AT field; however, in the quote he says that every "mind" has an AT field. IMO, there's a big distinction there, as "mind" (as opposed to "brain") implies a sense of self-identity and conscious thought, and most animal life forms haven't been scientifically shown to have a true sense of self, as far as I know. Have the series' creators said anything about this? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Kaworu's dialogue with Shinji
To keep from getting into an edit war...I could've sworn that one of the articles had Kaworu and Shinji's dialogue written out in the original Japanese. If someone can find a copy of the original script, or write out the dialogue from the subtitles, I think we can get somewhere on including the differences between the meanings of the Japanese words and their translated meanings, which can be included in other articles. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 19:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that any analysis not cited to a reliable source is original research, and is not permitted. --Eyrian 19:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of what WP:OR says can and can't be included. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Would not, then, the first step be finding a reliable source containing analysis? --Eyrian 20:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh...if I had all the time in the world, I wouldn't rest until a source was found, but unfortunately that's not the case. I'm hoping that in the time that I'm not here, someone can find a source; in the meantime, I started this topic mainly to get people's attention about the issue. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)