Talk:The Bella Twins

Fan Bias affecting article
It's clear there is a bias going on here that is preventing Nikki and Brie from having their own separate pages. They are each notable figures in professional wrestling history that deserve their own pages like any other pro wrestler. Just because you don't like them shouldn't affect their status as wiki subjects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.210.10 (talk) 06:32, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

It's pretty obvious at this point someone does not want separate pages for them as an attempt to diminish each woman's achievements because of some ridiculous notion of them not deserving it due to being bad guys on tv. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.206.135 (talk) 08:20, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Hiiiii Rollins mani (talk) 02:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Music Video
I think we should put somewhere on here that there were in the Atreyu music video for Right Side Of The Bed you can see them at about 4 seconds in and also later in it so what do you guys think Black60dragon (talk) 02:03, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Switching
It can't be stated in the article that they are switching. They haven't stated it on tv.

Hmmm, the policy goes into effect on ppv articles to make wrestling seem fake but here in smaller articles, Wiki can goa all smart-mark on the readers? Wikipedia (eye rolls) 74.183.60.33 (talk) 01:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

They're switching, they can't leave under the ring so fast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.30.237.187 (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

definitely switching. 2 weeks ago Nicole was getting out when Brie went in. she got out too fast so you could see both their heads at the same time. PXK  T /C   11:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

can't forget that on brie's first match they switched (she had a belt on when she went under the ring then when nicole came out she didnt have one)

Identical?
Are they identical twins or fraternal?Jzummak (talk) 21:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, Do you even know what fraternal twins are? If you did, you would see that the twins lok exactly the same, meaning they are identical, NOT fraternal. S imon K  S  K   21:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, twins could look exactly alike, but the slightest thing could make them fraternal.Josephjames21 (talk) 23:02, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the twins look quite different, so I think this is a good question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C531:7AC0:5D21:3A61:AADE:3538 (talk) 05:20, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

-They are identical.-

Full names?
I found this, and by the look of it, their full names are Brianna Monique and Stephanie Nicole. I'm not adding it to the article just in case. -- James  Duggan  06:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Might not be reliable.  Simon K S K  14:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

They have confirmed that that's their real names — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.118.237 (talk) 21:56, 18 April 2014 (UTC) Nikki ♥ 311 17:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But one likes Primo and the other The Miz--Falegas (talk) 14:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * With the Bellas having now brawled with each other and chosen separate allegiances (in storyline), we may want to revisit the separate article idea. EvWill (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But it is still part of the same storyline...their articles would still be 99% the same. Nikki ♥ 311 15:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The Bella Twins tag team no longer exists. The individual Nikki Bella and Brie Bella characters still do exist. I just don't agree that the Bella Twins entry should get priority. EvWill (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Which twin was spit in the face with the apples?
It does say Brie was spit in the face, but is there any proof? To me it would make sense that Nikki got spit in the face and left Carlito and Primo and went to Miz and Morrison, instead of Brie getting spit in the face by Carlito and Primo and staying by their side. Josephjames21 (talk) 23:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The whole thing was televised on ECW. Brie was spit in the face, Nikki laughed at Brie, Brie shoved Nikki, Nikki attacked Brie, their fight was broken up, Nikki left with Miz/Morrison, Brie stayed with Carlito/Primo. That's how it played out whether it made any sense or not. EvWill (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Signature moves!
I want to know why the moves that I added were deleted! I referenced them and everything! Swedehearts (talk) 11:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Nikki Bella, Heel Turn?
Should we note that Nikki Bella has turned heel? Each week she displays more villainous behavior, while her sister still remains a fan favorite.

No "Personal Life" Section
Looking at other articles on WWE Divas, it appears they all have "Personal Life" sections, however brief, and it strikes me as odd that there is not one for them.--68.111.242.222 (talk) 02:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Separate Move Sections
Shouldn't Brie and Nikki have separate move sections, now? Brie has busted out many moves that Nikki has yet to do, such as the missile dropkick and the running knee against the ropes. Plus, Nikki has started to use the Argentine Backbreaker as a finishing move.

Giving them a separate list of moves would make more sense and it would be easier to follow now that they both use various different moves and not the same moves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.13.238 (talk) 11:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

It should also be noted now that they are doing Total Divas that their on-screen personalities (and movesets) are becoming more and more different, as well as the fact they don't always wear matching outfits anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1015:B111:5D7B:7DB0:7039:BCEB:9A35 (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

They deserve Separate Pages, just like every other one. For example, Rhodes and Goldust have their own page and a tag page. Just because they are twins doesnt mean they arent each notable. 72.161.225.17 (talk) 17:12, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The Bellas aren't notable on their own, they spent all of their career together as a tag team. They never gone solo. So the page shall remain as it is. Cody Rhodes and Goldust aren't twins and barley spent their career as a tag team, they are notable as a separate people. --Miss X-Factor (talk) 19:37, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

They both had successful Title Reigns. And when Nikki was injured Brie did well on her own. I'd think that's notable enough for separate pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.223.146.126 (talk) 04:16, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * In both those cases however, their association was still emphasised on tv. When Brie was champion, they were still switching places to win matches, and vice versa when Nikki was champion, and when Nikki was injured, she was still accompanying Brie to the ring. The articles would be almost identical (probably more than 90%), so there is simply no point in having two articles. Nici  Vampire  Heart  14:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

--75.66.118.237 (talk) 20:47, 19 April 2014 (UTC)Shea001== Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2014 ==

75.66.118.237 (talk) 21:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  03:28, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Brie now goes by Brianna Danielson personally, as she's noted on her IG as well as in interviews she is Mrs. Danielson (http://instagram.com/thebriebella)

Brianna danielson Gaone sekoto (talk) 19:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Brianna danielson Gaone sekoto (talk) 19:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2014
Please change Brianna Garcia-Danielson and Nicole Garcia-Colace to Brianna Monique Garcia-Danielson (née Colace) and Stephanie Nicole Garcia-Colace they have confirmed on Instagram that's there real name and their boyfriends Daniel Bryan and John Cena has said it on multiple occasions can you just consider it and could you change their picture to a more updated picture and she has been dating John Cena since August 2012

Sources: http://instagram.com/p/TwKsfVsaFu/ http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2013/0810/564750/john-cena-and-nikki-bella-celebrate-anniversary/ http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2013/0810/564750/john-cena-and-nikki-bella-celebrate-anniversary/ http://instagram.com/p/dQPrDCikAq/

SheaPooh001 (talk) 15:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC)SheaPooh001
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. None of these sources are considered reliable. Nici  Vampire  Heart  14:17, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

How can you say they are not realiable when this is said by the person themselves? Its directly from the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riahc3 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

These two sources have given Nikki's real name as Stephanie Nicole. I'm not sure if they're reliable or not, seeing as how a number of other sites have treated "Nicole" as Nikki's real first name, but those two possibly reliable sources, coupled with the photos from their Instagrams saying "Steph & Briana" on their baby stockings and Nikki's legal passport saying "S. Garcia," gives me reasonable doubt. (Not to be included in the article, but perhaps she stopped going by her first name, and using her middle name instead, at some point before the start of her WWE career?) If these sources are indeed found to be reliable, we should at least note somewhere in the article that her real name has alternately been reported as "Stephanie."--AnnviRosson (talk) 12:15, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2014
Can you change Nikki finishing move from the " Rack Attack " to " Nikki Rack Attack " here is my source that's what she called it when she was interviewed on Hello Ross http://youtube/q8WE-UwoeUA

SheaPooh001 (talk) 15:27, 20 April 2014 (UTC)SheaPooh001
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: that link does not work, so I cannot verify your information. Please provide a working, reliable source. Thanks, Nici  Vampire  Heart  14:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Brie Bella Quit
On June 1, 2014 Brie Bella quit to save her husband Bryan Danielson aka. Daniel Bryan titles my source is WWE.COM Can you please add this to their article because someone took it down. If your read the whole article it says she stepped in and stepped up and quit the WWE and slapped Stephanie across the face

Source: http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwepayback/2014/daniel-bryan-refuses-to-surrender-the-wwe-world-heavyweight-title-at-payback-26361504 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SheaPooh001 (talk • contribs) 03:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Separate pages
At SummerSlam, Nikki turned heel on Brie aligning herself with The Authority. Should The Bella Twins page be about the tag team and create separate pages about Brie and Nikki? ClassicOnAStick (talk) 02:06, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Too soon to tell in my opinion. If they break apart and do totally different storylines, then might be the time to split the articles.  If they only feud with each other and end up reuniting in a few months then all of that material can be covered in one article so a split won't be necessary.LM2000 (talk) 03:54, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * ❌ Until the individual's solo careers have received extensive, independent, coverage there is little to say in a separate article. - Arjayay (talk) 07:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2014
189.144.109.239 (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: no request Cannolis (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014
Dado1445 (talk) 01:42, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Well...... whatcha want done? – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2014
Nikki Bella is 16 minutes older than her sister Brie Bella

50.182.132.3 (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Source? currently cited source just says they're 16 minutes apart Cannolis (talk) 00:00, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Brie's Signatures Moves
Yes! Lock (Omoplata Crossface)- adopted from her husband, Daniel Bryan Single-Arm DDT Double-Foot Stomp- used rarely when heel Running Bull-Dog Jumping Snapmare- usually followed by low drop-kick Missile Dropkick- from the middle or top rope Running Knee- usually to an opponent sitting against the ropes Leaping Clothesline- often done in succession Single Leg Boston Crab- sometimes as a counter to an oncoming opponent Thesz Press (???-2014) Multiple Pinning Variations: Roll-up School-Girl Lateral Press La Magistral Hair-Pull Mat Slam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3:3880:32C:60CD:B2F2:C9BD:D5EA (talk) 13:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Another request for separate entries
It's ridiculous that they don't have their own pages by now. They are two different people with different careers and histories. They have broken up and feuded with each other. They look completely different and have different personalities. They have separate entries on wwe.com and everywhere else on the internet.

Split em. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.28.255.177 (talk) 00:04, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you please give me some sources from this list of sites that extensively cover each sister in ways that this article can't do so? -- w L &lt;speak&middot;check&gt; 05:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2015
I want to fix The Bella Twins' name by putting a T when its just the Bella Twins.

80.111.244.174 (talk) 11:51, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

They need separate pages.
Two different people with two different careers. There is no reason to have them on the same page, they are not even a tag team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.28.245.224 (talk) 03:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Nikki atleast.
Going to join the chorus and say i definitely think atleast Nikki should have her own page as she has won the women's main title (twice) which establishes an individual career. Remember the tag team is like a stable, other tag teams/stables members have individual pages. GuzzyG (talk) 02:11, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * They have the same page not because they are a tag team, but because they are twins. Every storyline they have had has involved each other and every non-wrestling appearance has been together. Even with Nikki's reign, Brie is involved with that storyline instead of having one of her own. If they ever establish separate careers, then they might get their own pages. Nikki ♥  311   02:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * There are plenty of twins with their own separate articles on Wikipedia, what makes Nikki and Brie so special?


 * Being Twin doesnt justify them not having their own pages. They are not the same person. There are other teams that were only a team during their entire run and have separate runs. 207.119.119.44 (talk) 20:07, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2015
SEPARATE PAGES FOR NIKKI AND BRIE.

71.31.210.10 (talk) 06:27, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

In order to qualify for separate articles they must have a significant career, separate from each other, and have received extensive coverage of those independent careers, in reliable, independent, sources. Then, someone must be interested enough to write the two articles. - Arjayay (talk) 07:58, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ as that is not a Semi-protected edit request.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2016
Brie Bella planning on Retiring summer 2016 Brie Bella told good mourning America on February 16 that she expects to retire http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/brie-bella-retirement-confirmed-good-morning-america/

Wrestling fan 7 (talk) 15:20, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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They need separate pages.
They are two different people with completely different careers. Every other wrestler gets a personal page, there is no reason to lump them together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.206.135 (talk) 08:18, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

hi nikki and brei i am a fan i love you so much you are the best of wwe'

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2016
In the lede, please remove the PWInsider reference to Brie "retiring" because it is clear in the WWE source that she is taking an extended break to start a family and is NOT retiring from wrestling altogether. The same source should be removed from the "Various storylines and Brie's semi retirement (2016–present)" section and both should state that Brie is taking an extended break from wrestling (per the WWE source). 101.182.183.164 (talk) 04:56, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Padlock-silver-open.svg Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:43, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Brie Bella has NOT retired
From the source I have restored - note the bolded;


 * ''BRIE BELLA: Yes. WrestleMania 32 was my last match.


 * ''I wouldn't say my last match forever, just my last match that you'll see in a while. I am here at home because Daniel Bryan and I want to start a family soon. Or I shouldn't say soon — we want to start it now! We're going to start having babies, so I have to put my career on hold.


 * ''It doesn't mean that I'm going to be gone. I'm going to be an ambassador for WWE. But I'm going to try motherhood.


 * ''WWE.COM: So, this isn't an official retirement then, but it is more than just a break.


 * BRIE BELLA: Exactly.

Brie's own words, clearly stating that she has NOT OFFICIALLY RETIRED. 101.182.75.183 (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk on other pages
There has been renew talked on two other pages because WWE has established Nikki and Brie as singles competitors rather than a tag team they have created two new pages Nikki Bella (wrestler) and Brie Bella (wrestler) if these pages are kept I would suggest that this page be edited to refer to them as a Tag Team or Team Bella similar to the pages of Team PCB or Team B.A.D. Adamprin (talk) 01:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Move to "The Team Bella"
I've undone this move, because I don't think it's correct.

Even if "Team Bella" is right, it's certainly not "The Team Bella"

Comments? Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Just noticed that "Team Bella" only seems to have been used since 2014, so I don't think it's appropriate for an article title when they've been around since 2007. There's nothing in the article to suggest that "Team Bella" is primary topic or common name within the article itself.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:32, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Brie Bella is retired not taking a extended Break.
She talks about having her last match and ending her career in Dallas here is the link https://www.facebook.com/349800268529310/videos/634307943411873/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bullscubsfan (talk • contribs) 22:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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