Talk:The Boat Race 2021

Behind closed doors?
There will be no spectators, but 'behind closed doors' seems an inappropriate expression in this context! Mdrb55 (talk) 19:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Plenty of RS are saying "behind closed doors". It's not meant in its "literal sense" in any case.  The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 19:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's what the sources say, so correct terminology. Even if there are no physical doors will be closed. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps this is a better know phrase in the United States and the U.K., but the phrase "behind close doors" is taken to mean that it is not open to the general public, not that it actually happens behind close doors. Finally, I also agree with Joseph2302, that the sources use this phrase and that lends to use in this article. Jurisdicta (talk) 22:31, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a good example of reliable sources being useful for establishing facts and tone, but not style. I take it that the phrase is common in Europe, but this is an international encyclopedia and apparently a topic of global interest if we're putting it on the main page. I literally thought maybe they made the boat race an erg race the first time I read this. There's no accuracy lost and a clear comprehension gain with "without spectators" or "with spectators barred" --Jfhutson (talk) 17:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is written in British English and the term is linked. It might even be interesting for others to learn about that general concept.  The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 17:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * MOS:COMMONALITY: "Use a commonly understood word or phrase in preference to one that has a different meaning because of national differences." For Americans, I think the phrase actually implies a secretive meeting, usually in politics. Also, readers shouldn't have to follow links to understand (MOS:FORCELINK). If we really think there is some educational benefit to teaching Americans this phrase, what about "behind closed doors (meaning with spectators barred)" the first time it is mentioned. --Jfhutson (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "Behind closed doors" is terminology also used in many US sports articles e.g. 2020 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament, 2020 NFL season. It's a commonly used term during the pandemic, and has a clear meaning. "With no spectators" is not the commonly used terminology in non-US countries, and so we should not be defaulting to terminology used predominantly in the US. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it's written in British English. Cheers though. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 14:04, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

"Fantastically unique"
Seems rather oxymoronic. Unique is an absolute term. Are we sure Sullivan didn't say "uniquely fantastic," which clearly would make more sense. – Sca (talk) 15:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, we're sure. I fail to see why something which is unique can't be fantastic. Or terrible.  Or mundane.  The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 15:34, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

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