Talk:The Brothers Karamazov

Translation
The English translation I read was translated (maybe only revised) by Princess Alexandra Kropotkin. I can’t read Russian to really say whether it was a good translation or not, but it seemed to be a fine translation. —Chris Capoccia 03:45, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)


 * Most if not all critical journals, magazine's and radio programs, not to mention the PEN Translation Prize Committee have acknowledged Pervear and Volohonsky's translation as the new standard for Dostoevsky, particularly for Brothers Karamazov.

I have read BK translated by Constance Garnett (or should I say garbled by her); by David Magarshack, (who admits in the introduction that he does not much like Dostoevsky as a writer--it shows in his translation).

The whole reason why Pervear and Volohonksy started translating dostoevsky is because Volohonsky, a native Russian with a degree in English, read the existing English translations and was horrified at how bad they were.

Even Joseph Frank, who likes to retranslate passages himself for inclusion in his mammoth 5 volume biography of dostoevsky, and who started the project long before P & V started translating, has now defered to their translations in all but the extreme case when he makes a slight amendment to their translation for the sake of emphasizing the relationship between D's life and text.

This should be a closed issue. For clarity we should standardize all references to the P & V translation. We should also create a section which notes the criticism and accolades for various translations; it is so important for this book.

E.H.

--- Secondly, might it be interesting to list all the various translations in existence by now? Perhaps just here, in the discussion pages, as I don't really know where else to put them, but it seems interesting, if nothing else. I know of quite a few, but it's very hard to find them chronologized anywhere. boombaard (talk) 21:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Constance Garnett (1912)
 * Richard Pevear & Larissa Volokhonsky (1990)
 * Julius Katzer (1980)
 * Ralph E. Matlaw (based on Garnett) (1976)
 * Rosemary Edmunds (based on Garnett)
 * David Magarshack (1950s-70s?)
 * David McDuff (1993)
 * Andrew R. MacAndrew (1970?)
 * Ignat Avsey (1994)

I have added the Julius Katzer translation in the above list. It is remarkable that the only translation from a Russian (Soviet era) publisher was omitted. It leads me to wonder if these sentences too, will be erased. Georgi Plekhanov (talk) 20:12, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

the culmination of his life's work?
The Brothers Karamazov (Братья Карамазовы in Russian, /'bratʲjə karə'mazəvɨ/) is the last novel by the Russian author Fyodor Dostoevsky, generally considered the culmination of his life's work. - considered by whom? That sentence looks really controversial.

У нас наиболее важной работой считается "Преступление и наказание". А вообще, это некорректно. 37.194.189.130 (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2016 (UTC)Василисса

invalid name
"Grigory Kutuzov Vasilievich " is not a valid Russian name. 108.18.136.147 (talk) 17:03, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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1958 film
"The Brothers Karamazov (1958, directed by Richard Brooks, starring Yul Brynner and William Shatner)"

Written by a Star Trek fanboy? Though Alexxy's role was larger in the book than the 1958 film, Shatner was billed fifth or sixth in the movie credits and on the wikipedia article of this version. John.T.Buchner (talk) 17:18, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

First translation
One part of the article says that the first English translation was Constance Garnett's in 1912. But then the list of English translations begins with Isabel Florence Hapgood, supposedly in 1905. Which is it? NoriMori (ノリモリ) 03:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Clarified. You can always WP:JUSTFIXIT. Harold the Sheep (talk) 03:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)