Talk:The Bulwark (website)

Conservative?
Besides some people saying so, I haven't seen any actual social conservatism from their articles. Can someone provide me with an article of theirs that isn't indistinguishable from a WAPO or NYT article in terms of perspective and agenda? 2600:1003:B05A:A35A:9CF:95:13C6:DAED (talk) 17:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I would support removing the label of conservative from the leading sentence. The website also does not label itself as conservative, but rather describes itself as
 * "without partisan loyalties or tribal prejudices. We put country over party. We know that we’re all in this together."
 * The sources supporting the label are mostly from when The Bulwark was founded. It might have been a fair expectation, but I do not think it has turned out that way. Many of the contributors are former Republicans, of course. That would support a label of something like "associated with the Never Trump movement" (which that article indicates is associated largely with former Republicans). But there is a contrast between The Bulwark and, say, The Dispatch, in that the latter seems to espouse conservatism (while usually being critical of Trump and Trump-supporting Republicans) whereas the former is more indifferent about whether its criticism is from left or right. SilverLocust (talk) 02:34, 17 May 2023 (UTC) (edited)
 * I agree. The Bulwark was founded by never-Trump conservatives (Sarah Longwell, Charlie Sykes and Bill Kristol are undoubtedly conservative), but as far as I can tell, the content is not explicitly conservative, and they explicitly claim to provide a home for the pro-democracy center right and center left. And more recently this is also reflected in hiring decisions. William Saletan for instance is a writer at The Bulwark and he's probably best described as center left. Fstengel (talk) 06:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:V supersedes editors' interpretations of how their articles read and their hiring decisions, which is WP:OR. The Bulwark was founded in December 2018. We already have 1 article cited from October 2019 and 1 from February 2021 supporting the "conservative" label. Here are RS that call the Bulwark "conservative" well past their founding- February 2021, May 2021, October 2022, March 2023 KiharaNoukan (talk) 06:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)