Talk:The Bus Collective

LTG
@Justanothersgwikieditor, regarding the LTG source, I checked in on RSN, @Thryduulf said "if "The Bus Collective" is notable (this does not go any way towards establishing that and I've not investigated any further) then it might be usable to verify some factual information if there is no better source for it." I gave the source the benefit of the doubt on that basis, so perhaps we can discuss a bit more over here? S5A-0043 Talk 04:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @S5A-0043, the discussion is very clear over there that it is essentially a blog and not to be used. Banks had mentioned specifically 'If this is the only source for a statement, then that statement should not be included in a Wikipedia article'. Brachy08 and ZKang had also mentioned not to use it as it is an unreliable source. You are specifically picking out Thryduulf's remarks here to support your stand when there are three other editors speaking against it. You are effectively forum shopping and canvassing when there is a clear consensus on the usage. I see Thryduulf on the fence when there are 3 other editors against it.
 * I have reviewed the article and passed NPP on the basis of other secondary sources granting it notability. We cannot grant a source as reliable or to be used just because an article is notable. This is putting the cart before the horse. Also, based on the facebook comment by the company, LTG had trespassed and took photo (self evidence of crime) of the interior (note facebook post enter the interior of the buses as there are private property). In fact, this criminal act probably make it even unreliable and probably crippled LTG at any steps of getting of it to pass as a reliable source.
 * The livery being stripped is trivial since it is a decommissioned bus and it is common to have decommissioned properties to strip off its existing livery by prior or new owners. The trivial fact of the livery being stripped should not be in the article in the first place. JASWE (talk) 05:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Very fair, I accept that. S5A-0043 Talk 05:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)