Talk:The Cattleman

name change
Its called the Cattleman Restaurant in the two sources I added. The word "the" is lower case, and the words "Cattleman" and "Restaurant" capitalized. Was the first one named something different than the other ones?  D r e a m Focus  23:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, Dream. I'm going by the trademarked logo of the restaurant, in the infobox. It's called "the Cattleman" (rather than "Cattleman Restaurant") in the 1961 and 1997 New York Times cites, and "The Cattleman" both in its display ad and in the accompanying list (under "46-53th Streets, East Side") on page 86 of the cited in June 23 1980 New York magazine. I'm sure it was called Cattleman Restaurant colloquially, but from these high-RS cites, it looks like "The Cattleman" was the name as trademarked (as per the circle-R "registered trademark" in the logo). --Tenebrae (talk) 01:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * here's the trademark (hope the link works) .--Milowent • hasspoken 02:38, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Got it, at http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4003:614sd6.4.14 Word Mark	THE CATTLEMAN Goods and Services	(EXPIRED) IC 034. US 009. G & S: MATCHBOXES. FIRST USE: 19590900. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19590900; (EXPIRED) IC 016. US 038. G & S: SIMULATED NEWSPAPERS, RECIPE BOOKS, POSTCARDS, ILLUSTRATED SPECIAL MENU CARDS AND BROCHURES, SHOPPING AND THEATER GUIDE, AND WINE BOOKLETS. FIRST USE: 19590900. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19590900 Mark Drawing Code	(5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM [NOTE from Tenebrae: The logo is just two words, so not sure why it says five] Serial Number	72290999 Filing Date	February 14, 1968 Current Basis	1A Original Filing Basis	1A Registration Number	0880732 Registration Date	November 18, 1969 Owner	(REGISTRANT) CATTLEMAN, INC., THE CORPORATION NEW YORK 5 E. 45TH ST. NEW YORK NEW YORK 10017 Assignment Recorded	ASSIGNMENT RECORDED Type of Mark	TRADEMARK Register	PRINCIPAL Affidavit Text	SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). Live/Dead Indicator	DEAD --Tenebrae (talk) 05:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)