Talk:The Concert in Central Park/Archive 1

Dave Matthews
I'm thinking that the "Dave Matthews" that the article links to isn't the right one... should probably either remove the link or disambig it somehow. 68.110.235.109 20:23, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. Matthews (the DMB guy) would have been 14 at the time, and his article states that he lived in South Africa at the time. Runnerupnj 04:34, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Johnny Ace
Wasn't the "Johnny Ace" song actually about John Lennon? [User:Zigwithbag|Zigwithbag]] 1:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zigwithbag (talk • contribs)

Missing song
Years ago on The Dr. Demento Show, I heard that there was a much more humorous song added to the album called "Here's Hoping." If it's not here, where can this song be found? --DanTD 16:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Track listings
There appear to be several different versions of the CD in circulation, including one with about 40 seconds of crowd noises removed from the end of The Boxer, and 30 seconds from 59th Street. Bastie (talk) 11:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

John Eckert
The link does not point to the musician John Eckert. It seems that there is no article for him.
 * Fixed. &mdash; goethean &#2384; 15:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Factual accuracy
More research is required regarding the size of the crowd. See the reference for Paul Simon's Concert in the Park which suggests crowd sizes in Central Park may have been inflated tenfold. Your MTV reference for this figure is weak in any case. Verne Equinox (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * "in the end there were roughly 500,000 in the audience, more than, for example, at Woodstock.[19]" - Did you click on the 19th reference? It points me to "Eliot 2010, p. 174.", not MTV. Regards.-- GoP T C N 13:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Contemporary source here were 400K (police) to 500K (mayor).--Wehwalt (talk) 19:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I knew I should have not commented on your source. The point is that there is a level of doubt. You should acknowledge this doubt at least. Verne Equinox (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable (although I'm just lurking here, GOP's your guy), after all, Ed Koch has been known to ... exaggerate.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:36, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Many sources state a number of 500,000, including


 * The Rolling stone encyclopedia of rock & roll: "On September 19, 1981, Simon and Garfunkel gave a free concert for an estimated 500000 fans in New York's Central Park,"
 * Several Guinness book of world records books: "500000 (?) at a Simon and Garfunkel reunion"
 * American life and institutions: "rock concerts in which 500000 people gather peacefully in Central Park ("where," as Simon and Garfunkel sang"
 * Where were you when- the music played?: 120 unforgettable moments ...: "Simon and Garfunkel reunited for a free concert in New York's Central Park ... an audience of 500000"
 * American songwriters: an H.W. Wilson biographical dictionary: "Simon and Garfunkel were again reunited on the evening of September 19, 1981, for a free concert in New York's Central Park which attracted an audience of about 500000."
 * New York access: "Elton John drew 300000 people here for a concert; Simon & Garfunkel attracted 500000 a year later"
 * A Short and Remarkable History of New York City: "1981 Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, the folk-rock duo, give a concert on the Great Lawn in Central Park for 500000 fans, "
 * and so on...-- GoP T C N 10:09, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Of course there is a level of doubt... You can not simply number all the spectators, especially in a free concert. When several reliable sources state 500,000, then it is the most preferred number.-- GoP T C N 10:12, 8 May 2012 (UTC)