Talk:The Course of Empire (paintings)

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Hey, so just created the page on 1/27/07. Mdiamante 06:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

This page should probably reference Bishop Berkeley's line "Westward, the course of empire takes its way". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.20.157 (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

The Paintings
How big are they. You know, the Size? Anyone ... anyone ... Buhler? 71.164.128.167 (talk) 05:00, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This page needs most of the content from http://www.explorethomascole.org/tour/items/69/series/; site run by Historicusinc.com for their client, ThomasCole.org, "an affiliated site of the National Park Service". Two items in particular: 1. The title of this series of paintings is taken from Bishop George Berkeley's poem "Westward the course of empire takes its way", 2. The sizes, dates, and composition of the paintings: All are "Oil on canvas", "The Savage State" 1834, 39½ x 63½ in., "The Arcadian or Pastoral State" 1834, 39½ x 63½ in., "The Consummation of Empire" 1836, 51 x 76 in., "Destruction" 1836, 39½ x 63½ in., "Desolation" 1836, 39½ x 63½ in. 71.164.128.167 (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I added the sizes and dates to the image thumbnails. Feel free to move them around if you find a better solution. Also, be bold if you think any change would make the article better! Cheers, jonkerz♠ 20:23, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks jonkerz♠. I'm pretty bold, for a n00b -- I thought anyone watching this page would know better how & where to insert the info. I was right. Again. ;) BTW, an excellent Cultural Reference would be here: http://courseofempire.com/mp3/ 71.164.128.167 (talk) 16:02, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Latin quote
"Sic transit gloria mundi" is directly connected to these paintings how? It looks like pure editorial to me. 71.164.128.167 (talk) 19:44, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It is not removed. jonkerz♠ 20:24, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * And yet, it is gone. Thanks ... As everyone knows, there are dozens, if not hundreds of sites that copy WP content -- I found many that have these descriptions of the paintings, most of which not only included the Latin quote, but an English translation of it. All the descriptions were added on 1 April 2007 by 76.201.155.223, and I could not find the text existing any earlier anywhere else that could be dated, so hopefully it is original -- nice job & thanks to 76.201.155.223. BTW jonkerz♠, how did your edits timestamp an hour before mine‽‽ 71.164.128.167 (talk) 15:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The timestamp in the article history or on this talk page? Your timestamp is before mine on the talk page (19:44 vs. 20:24 in the above messages) because you edited before me; my timestamp is earlier in the article history because on that occasion I edited before you, at least according to my memory and the page's history. Are we looking at different logs‽‽ jonkerz♠ 21:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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A question about Cole's description
In Cole's description of The Consummation of Empire there's this sentence: "The conqueror, robed in purple, is mounted in a car drawn by an elephant, and surrounded by captives on foot,"

Where are the captives in the painting, anyone know? MrThe1And0nly (talk) 07:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

I've added L'Allegro
Seems to be similar enough to warrant a mention here. Since I don't know anything about the painting, I've limited myself only to the description of what is demonstrably visible in the painting. I hope this isn't an overreach and fits the article. Personally I think it's a beneficial addition. Someone knowledgeable may feel free to edit however they see fit. MrThe1And0nly (talk) 11:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)