Talk:The Cry of Love Tour/Archive 1

Infobox abbreviations & linking
changed "US" to "United States" and linked it and "Europe" to their WP articles. This does not follow WP "generally accepted standards": Unless some overriding reason is given for not following the generally accepted standards, the earlier version will be restored. —Ojorojo (talk) 13:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:Manual of Style/Abbreviations includes "For these commonly-referred-to entities, the full name does not need to be written out in full on first use, nor provided on first use in parentheses after the full name if written out... US or U.S."
 * WP:Manual of Style/Linking includes "What generally should not be linked... The names of subjects with which most readers will be at least somewhat familiar: This generally includes major examples of... locations (e.g., Berlin; New York City, or just New York if the city context is already clear; London, if the context rules out London, Ontario; Japan, Brazil, Southeast Asia)" [emphasis added for examples of well-known countries].

31 August edits

 * Why are your 31 August edits an improvement? You seem to be imposing your idea of what is the best table format. I see that you only made one minor edit to the article and only after it was nominated for GA, in which the infobox was changed from "U.S." (an allowable abbreviation by MOS:ACRO) to "United States" and was linked along with "Europe", contrary to WP:OVERLINK.

All the North American concerts were in the U.S., so why is the heading needed? Why does "United States" need to be spelled out? Most tables use "U.S." (allowed by MOS:ACRO). Linking common countries is considered WP:OVERLINK. Also, all the dates are in 1970, so why remove it from the column heading and add it for every date?

I also question why you decided to make these changes now. This was nominated for GA four months ago. The sensible way would have been to bring it up here on the talk page first. Your actions give the article the appearance of instability.

—Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Well I'm sorry. I'll simply revert my edits then. CHICHI7YT (talk) 17:41, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Of course there's always room for improvement. I left out identifying "legs", because three reliable sources differ on what actually constituted the tour: just the U.S. dates or does it include the European dates. This is noted (and referenced) in the first footnote. Also, 37 was used as the total number, because the Leary benefit and the filming for Rainbow Bridge were more impromptu than scheduled (2nd & 3rd footnotes). Do these points need to be emphasized more?
 * The Forum is in Inglewood (which is actually more like surrounded by L.A., rather than near), but most people associate it with L.A. (Lakers, Kings, etc.). However, to be completely correct, I'll change it to Inglewood. I'm not sure about "West" Germany, though. I didn't see anything in a quick review of WP:Naming conventions (geographic names), but it does say "Use modern English names for titles and in articles. Historical names or names in other languages can be used in the lead if they are frequently used and important enough to be valuable to readers, and should be used in articles with caution." Do you have any more guidance on this? —Ojorojo (talk) 18:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Please note that this article has gone through a review process to become a WP "good article". If you feel there are errors or it could otherwise be improved, please bring them up here first. As you can see, the venue linking issue has already been addressed – it may save us all some time. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)