Talk:The Danse Society

Darkwave
Not to start the same debate here, but it makes no sense to use a European term unused in the UK at the time for a British band. They tend to be associated with the Goth scene, but they started earlier and were more poppy. Safest just to describe them as a post-punk band. Donnacha 15:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Despite having been a minor band, they were famous even outside UK, in Countries in which the term Darkwave was used; and until I will not have the chance to talk with some British friends aged 38/42 years, I am not going to believe you: sorry, there is nothing personal, I assume good faith. According to my sources both the names were used, but "dark" was predominant to describe the scene, and also the mood of some bands. Hopefully some of these bands will release interviews on the past years. I would like that the couple of term Darkwave/Gothic rock will stay togeher in such kind of pages for now. Dr. Who 01:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This is completely beside the point. They're a UK band, it's ridiculous to use a term that was not in use in the UK at the time. Donnacha 10:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

UK English
What's this nonsense? There is no "preference" about the words band or group, some say is, some say are. Donnacha 22:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Resolve bickering here
Before anyone has any accusations to make toward me, I've never heard of this band and don't care about them at all. My edits were not vandalism, they merely restored the article to the last version before a bunch of unsourced and promotional material was added. This is not VH1's Behind the Music or a fansite, this is an encyclopedia that neutrally summarizes verifiable information. No one is "skilled," and we don't give a fuck which split in the band fans like more.

The biggest area of debate appears to be what the official site is, and which reincarnation is the official one. This is not resolved by calling others vandals despite not knowing what vandalism actually is. No one has engaged in vandalism, but I'm seeing both sides engaging in personal attacks and a general failure to assume good faith. Those two issues are resolved through reliable sources. That means y'all have to get newspaper or magazine articles independent of the band(s), their record companies, and their fanclubs. No Wordpress blogs (or any other blogs), no Facebook sites, no Discogs, nothing that any idiot on the internet can make.

If the sources say one site and reincarnation is official, that's the official one as far as Wikipedia is concerned. We don't care about "the truth", only objective verifiability. If different sources treat each site and reincarnation as official, Wikipedia will discuss both as different ways the band split. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * +1 I was searching for a decent version to revert to when you beat me to it. --Neil N  talk to me 16:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Well done - a third party prepared to force a resolution. References are being prepared by a user more skilled than I to resolve the lack of references. They are out there but I do not have the proficiency to submit them - I have tried but user Paulnashuk1 keeps removing them. This matter has to be resolved outside of Wikipedia and perhaps it is best if the page in question is removed until the ownership question is resolved? The registrant of the domain thedansesociety.com does not have access to it and has no involvement with the parties now administering that domain. That also needs to be resolved outside of Wikipedia. Tarnhall (talk) 16:38, 9 December 2014 (UTC)tarnhallTarnhall (talk) 16:38, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Please note that the owner of the domain name thedansesociety.com and thedansesociety.co.uk is involved and has full access to the website, unlike stated by Tarnhall above, in fact the website is updated on a weekly basis as you can easily verify . The owner has always been since the reformation Paul Nash, founder of the band. Journalist astronomist (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * You can cite sources here without anyone removing them. Just list: (article name), (author name), (book, magazine, or newspaper name), (publisher, if applicable) (date published), (page numbers article covers).
 * The claims you made are unsourced, and the assumption that one part of the band was acting in good faith and another in bad faith shows a problematic bias. Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs or otherwise defend any particular view.  All we care about are what reliable and independent published sources show.  Ian.thomson (talk) 16:44, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I've redacted your unsourced assertions and accusations against living people. Please do not make them again. --Neil N  talk to me 16:48, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Please note that there is no band split like Tarnhall is trying to insinuate. He has resigned and he is one alone leaving the three band members to continue with the name The Danse Society. My report was meant to preserve the reliability of the official website because this has been the only reliable resource for the band and fans for over 4 years now, long before the drummer has resigned. It is misleading to the public (and with respect to the band members) to call it a split and to wipe the line up for the sake of one ex band member, in my opinion. User:Journalist astronomist (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:01, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Web site
I have removed the link to the groups website as there appears to be a dispute over which one is the one to be used. Please discuss here and do not restore to article until resolved. Keith D (talk) 16:55, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

what dispute and what other link?? please be specific in your reasoning for removing valid link, there is only one official website thedansesociety.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulnashuk1 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There has been various edits switching the link between domains and for no valid reason. Therefore in order to resolve this continual switching it has been removed from the page. Please do not restore it as you are one of the ones involved in the switching from .org.uk to .com You are claiming there is only one official site but this is clearly disputed by others. Keith D (talk) 13:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)