Talk:The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya

Vanishment vs Disappearance
The external links call it The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, not The Vanishment of Haruhi Suzumiya.--216.254.166.235 (talk) 19:08, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The rationale for using Vanishmment over Disappearance began a long time ago, even before the second season was announced or made, and far before this film came into existence. It comes from some official bookmarks featuring English translations of the novels which came in the December 2006 issue of The Sneaker where Haruhi Suzumiya is sometimes serialized, seen here. This was, and still remains, the only verifiable proof of an official English translation, and also shows intent by the original author/publisher to prefer a specific translation over another, and thus should be honored on Wikipedia.--  十  八  01:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no evidence that "Vanishment" is the official English translation for the film however. Even if it has been casually used, the other translation should at least be mentioned in the article, as "Disappearance" is a very common, probably the most common translation.--173.206.28.242 (talk) 01:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I am confident that the film will contain an English translation, since the first anime season did so with The Melancholy.--  十  八  01:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, but no one can predict exactly what will happen, not even Yuki :)--173.206.28.242 (talk) 01:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I have not verified this myself yet, but people have said that the movie contains an English title that says "Disappearance" in it. 15:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.61.234.4 (talk)

Seeing as how the official English title for the fourth novel is Disappearance, I believe, now, that it should be changed to comply with WP:MOS-AM.--  十  八  01:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * So as I (User:173.206.28.242) expected earlier, "Vanishment" is not necessarily the official English translation, even if it was casually used in some places. Now it becomes evident that "Disappearance" is both official and the most common name, so the article should be renamed by WP naming conventions. --173.206.7.9 (talk) 02:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Even the untranslated Japanese version of the movie has the words "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" at the beginning. For proof see the camrip that surfaced a few days ago (or the version fansubbed by Mazui). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.182.97.32 (talk) 20:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite true (I've also verified it by myself now). So "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" is very official for the novel and the movie. --173.206.90.230 (talk) 04:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Redirect?
I don't know much about the rules of Wikipedia, but I'll go ahead and make a suggestion anyway: Maybe we should make this page a redirect from "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Movie" or "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Film" or something? I don't know how to do this, so someone who knows a lot and thinks this is a good idea comes along, go ahead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doggygirl 10 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The film has no relation to The Melancholy as the film is The Vanishment.... It would be more accurate to say create a redirect of "Haruhi Suzumiya movie/film", but either way, I don't think creating such a redirect is really going to be of any benefit since finding this article is easy enough from any of the articles pertaining to the series, or the main article itself.--  十  八 ' 08:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Spoilers?
Perhaps there should be some sort of spoiler alert for the Plot section? I'm sure that for a lot of people (myself included), that sort of section is just used to determine the general content of the film to see if it's worth watching. I don't think it's at all safe to assume that future movie watchers will have read the novel (and if they have, why would they be looking at the plot section anyway), and that paragraph reveals what was to me a VERY shocking twist. I suppose this is common on Wikipedia (I was burned when trying to learn a little about Ender's Game, for example), but if not, is there some way to indicate that that section contains spoilers? Gamer 2k4 (talk) 18:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Spoiler alerts are not used per WP:NDA.--  十  八  05:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

ANN review
The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya Blu-Ray + DVD http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/the-disappearance-of-haruhi-suzumiya/blu-ray+dvd

Simply being generally familiar with the characters and premise is not enough; to fully understand and appreciate what is going on in this story requires being a dedicated fan, one who has seen the entirety of its two seasons and remembers them well, as the movie offers not a moment of recap. While this limits the movie's accessibility, it also provides wonderful entertainment for fans who have watched everything, as the movie serves up an involving follow-up to The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and directly addresses one major point that the previous animated content routinely skirted around or approached only indirectly: that Kyon actually enjoys his “adventures” with Haruhi far more than he cares to admit. ...As one of the most interesting male leads from the past decade of school-centered series, he has always been more than just the narrator and point of view for the franchise: he has had no less than equal billing with the titular character as the star, to the point that many watched the series more because of him than because of Haruhi. Here, with Haruhi entirely absent for about an hour, he shows that he is quite capable of carrying the story on his own, although during that time he is a much more frantic and frazzled Kyon than fans are used to seeing. That makes the immense relief that he reels when he finally finds the original Yuki's clue to be a genuinely cathartic experience. He is also a more consistently aggressive Kyon than fans are used to seeing; while he has had his moments before - especially during the scenes in the second season involving filming The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina - during his most frantic period in the movie one can easily understand how certain characters would find him to be physically intimidating. Most importantly, Kyon finally gets a chance to develop the kind of introspection which stretches his character. ...Fan-favorite Yuki is also a pleasure, although for entirely different reasons. She has always been regarded as heavily moe despite her fearsome capabilities, and now viewers get to see her doing a more emotional turn at it, but this is not quite the standard take on timid moe characters. The TV series always heavily emphasized Haruhi's body language, and now Yuki gets a full range of it, too. Haruhi, when she finally does appear in the altered world, shows that even a change in reality cannot constrain her irrepressible personality. If one looks strictly at the plot progression, the story comes out great. After a set-up period and lengthy “things have changed” sequence, the story heats up in the second half when Kyon gets an unexpected tip that sets him on the hunt for Haruhi. After her finds her, a complicated and somewhat convoluted time-traveling escapade ensues as he tries to sort out how things got changed and change them back; reviewing the second season episode “Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody” beforehand will make this easier to follow, as the movie uses that episode's assumptions about causality. The very dramatic climax adds in some further new twists, but that is hardly the end of the story, as a mere return to business as normal would be too simple for a franchise like this. Kyon's gentle scene with Nagato during the heart of that 20-minute denouement is one of the franchise's finest moments. ...The main problem with the movie - indeed, the only factor holding it back from being a truly exceptional effort - is its length. Its full 163 minute running time (including English credits) comes in only a hair behind Final Yamato as the second-longest animated movie ever made, and that feels at least 20-30 minutes too long. It isn't as if the movie stalls or has needless scenes; in fact, barely any truly wasted moments can be found in the entire film. The issues are more the generously leisurely fashion in which events are allowed to unfold and the tendency to be complete to a fault in portraying details and characters' feelings. Kyon comments in-character about how the roughly 15 minute prologue took so long, but that merely establishes the trend, as every stage of the story is at least 20% longer than it probably actually needs to be. ...Kyoto Animation always did an excellent technical effort with the series, and the movie upgrades it even further. The animation is their best production to date, with such a conspicuous lack of shortcuts taken in even the simplest details that the movie seems to be showing off at times. Characters move freely and independently in background shots, animation of body language and facial expressions is among the finest of all anime efforts, and the few action moments flow naturally and smoothly. Even simple little details, like the way the cat Shami rolls off of Kyon's bed when her sister pulls of the blanket, shine here. Backgrounds are often almost photorealistic depictions of the settings, which does occasionally make the characters stand out a little bit (the movie's one minor visual flaw), and the character rendering is a slight grade below the overall visual quality, but creative use of camera angles, rich color contrasts, and some exquisite effects make up for that; one of the movie's neatest scenes is an overhead shot of Yuki's apartment which shows a floor so polished that it's reflective. ...Satoru Kousaki, who also scored the TV series, here gives the movie more of a “big picture” sound based around gentle piano themes with more dramatic and ominous themes liberally mixed in, an effort which generally suits the content well. The score is also allowed to go quiet for lengthy periods of time, especially during a long stretch in the first half which mostly involves Kyon interacting with Yuki. ...The potent Japanese cast for the series returns intact to deliver another memorable effort, but the English dub is no slouch, either, and the lion's share of the lines to go to what has been widely-acknowledged as the dub's strongest performance: Crispin Freeman's superbly sardonic rendition of Kyon. ...If Disappearance is the last Haruhi content to get animated then the franchise is finishing on a strong note. Despite its length, it is a very satisfying film which should certainly be in the collection of anyone who was enough of a fan to tough it out through the “Endless Eight” arc. And do be sure to watch through the end credits for a special epilogue.

--Gwern (contribs) 02:26 7 December 2011 (GMT)

Notes from Blu-ray special features
From "Location Hunting" From "BGM Recording" From "Special Screening in Kyoto" From "Special Screening in Tokyo" Could be useful for a production section. Here's the citation format: Axem Titanium (talk) 02:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Reference filming took place at Konan Hospital in Nishinomiya during the H1N1 flu epidemic
 * Pianist Seiji Hondo played the main theme, Gymnopedie No. 1 by Erik Satie. Supervising director Tatsuya Ishihara said it represents Haruhi's story about a "girl's heartbreak".
 * Soundtrack recorded by Eminence Symphony Orchestra in Sydney.
 * The team had trouble portraying Haruhi's character development because she had such little screen time. They decided to accentuate her "cuteness" in the prologue and have her return to her strong personality by the end.
 * Tomokazu Sugita felt the theme of the movie was that the all-powerful humanoid interfaces were actually the most limited characters and only the humans could fully experience life, despite their constraints. Referring to the triangle relationship between the three main leads, he characterized Nagato as the familiar bedrock of family and Haruhi as a friend-turned-lover and argued that it is impossible to sacrifice one for the other.