Talk:The Drop (sculpture)

Suggested improvements

 * Who or what is "BC Pavco"?
 * Please give coordinates.

Cheers, Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:20, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I wikilinked Pavco. Does anyone know a tool for geo coding?--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:11, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you; see How to add geocodes to articles. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I found this site to get the numbers, but can't find the plaza named in the article. Coal Harbour is southeast of Stanley Park.--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

✅ but should the geocode go at the top of the article or infobox where it is now?--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you; both. I've fixed that. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Suggested improvements deux

 * One blog says it was built in Calgary, can we find an RS?
 * "Polyurethane over EPS" from the city description . Is EPS that newer method of pickling steel? It does have a steel spine, so all three parts may need mention.
 * This could be Eco Pickled Surface but more likely Polystyrene. Do we know for sure it is Styrofoam or another type that isn't trademarked.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Bioplastic is another choice because Vancouver and Germany have many tree huggers. The blue links from these polymer articles have many types.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * 65-foot (20 m) tall or long, it is angled.
 * The Jaunted sources says tall. I just go with what the sources say, so we have no conflict unless another sources says differently. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Free licence image of sulfur piles I think there are only two huge piles that never change in size. A photo of the drop would be nice with them behind. They may be at.
 * I can help with images. I will be down at the Convention centre next week.  Please request any special ones.  I'll take a bunch.  The Interior  (Talk) 03:34, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the offer! A nice one that shows the blue against yellow? If you have a big memory stick then take a whole bunch. If you have Dropbox (service) or similar, you can store them there for us to grab. --Canoe1967 (talk) 03:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for the offer, The Interior. Do we know if photographs of this sculpture are allowed? I took one of "The Drop" recently but did not upload it due to copyright paranoia. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I really don't know, and I'd like to. I think I know who to ask...  The Interior  (Talk) 05:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the license on this image:File:Couplandart.jpg and Commons:Freedom of Panorama. The Interior  (Talk) 05:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great. I am sure further investigation will take place when the article is eventually nominated for Good status. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If there happens to be a plaque at the site, that might be another picture to use in the article. I almost always check for plaques to photograph, but failed to do so this time. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The Interior left me a note on my talk page, asking me to weigh in on the copyright issue, but subsequently he found the answer at Commons:Freedom of Panorama. Just a warning - there was a recent discussion at Commons about how U.S. courts might apply more restrictive U.S. freedom-of-panorama standards (i.e. U.S. FoP does not allow photos of sculptures) to photos of sculptures and other 3D creations, rather than the standards of the source country (which in the case of Canada, are more permissive).  The consensus was to simply tag FoP images with a warning tag, so end users of the images are aware of the potential legal wrinkle.  It would not affect your ability to use images of The Drop in this article at present, but it's an issue worth keeping an eye on as Wikimedia policy might possibly change in the future.  As for photos of the plaque, one additional warning.  Although numerous images of plaques still exist over on the Commons, many others have been deleted on the basis that it's a reproduction of copyrighted text.  So, if the text on this plaque contains anything more than the name of the work, the date, the creator, etc., then you may not want to bother uploading it. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:22, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * info@vancouverconventioncentre.com is the email of the project. They can find the author of the plaque text for release if it is complex enough for copyright. I will pop over to the commons and ask there as well. They have some nice images on their site. Should we email them and see if they want to release any with a free licence? We could mention that if they do, we can expand their article with them and possibly create one just for The Art Project.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Images

 * I found another image on flickr.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:27, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sweet. I'm waiting on sunshine. Forecast looks dismal.  Spring will come eventually.  The Interior  (Talk) 05:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I remember cloudy days being best for photography. No shadows, etc. The blue of the sculpture may look better in contrast to a grey sky than blue on blue. Rain may even have a nice effect. Don't forget to get one that contrasts against the yellow sulfur piles accross the inlet. Could you also ask at the office to release the plaque text as free licence or public domain? It may not be complex enough for copyright but that would clinch our use of it. Just have them email OTRS at commons where the images should be.--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. I suppose rain fits with the topic, and reflects the reality of this soggy metropolis. 06:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)