Talk:The Elephant Sanctuary in Tennessee

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and elephants
I would like to add a link to add research into Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and elephants. I also wanted to add that Winkie has been diagnosed with PTSD. Please advise.--Anita 05:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, page is unprotected now. --Ezeu 01:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you--Anita 05:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

No move. Duja ► 17:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC) Elephant Sanctuary, Hohenwald → Elephant Sanctuary — unnecessary disambiguation, latter is simply a redirect Dhartung | Talk 10:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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 * Support as nom. "Hohenwald" is not part of the official name or the common name. There isn't another "Elephant Sanctuary" vying for the article name. --Dhartung | Talk 10:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The correct name appears to be The Elephant Sanctuary which should be the target of the move as The Elephant Sanctuary (Hohenwald) since a dab is necessary at that location.  Elephant Sanctuary should be, and now is, a dab page given the number of uses including a possible main article.  Vegaswikian 20:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose - there is at least one other elephant sanctuary so using this, with or without the The, for a particular sanctuary is incorrect. The target is a perfectly useful DMB page. BlueValour 03:00, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Possible Copyright violation
I tried to revamp the article with respect to copyright issues. I did at one point ask Carol Buckley herself what changes she thought should be made to the article. The only changes she suggested were to Scott Blais' title and the number of habitats. If she had any problems with copyright, she didn't mention them.Anita 02:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It looks like much of this article is taken verbatim from this website:, presumably part of the official website for the santuary. The first paragraph of the article in particular seems to be mainly from the website, as does much of the Facilities section. :Silverfish 23:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Non-Invasive Research
This section is unclear. Is there research being done by the individuals mentioned at the sanctuary or is this just a list of researchers doing this kind of research in general? If there is research being done at this institution, I would expect some kind of reference or references to the research in the primary journals--a list of researchers does not say much. If this is just a list of researchers who do this kind of research in general, it is out of place here.Kgilbert78 (talk) 20:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Rewrite
I moved the points in "History" to one paragraph but I think its still too detailed, as is the rest of the article which is basically one long chronology that should be smoothed into three or four paragraphs. All the information here about the individual elephants is at their website, where it is updated on a regular basis. http://elephants.com/elecam/

Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors (talk) 02:30, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Population and history
''this section from the article space is excessively detailed and formatted more as a list than prose. Should be trimmed and converted to prose before moving back to article space.'' RJFJR (talk) 21:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Currently, the Elephant Sanctuary is home to eleven Asian elephants and two African elephants.

Tarra, The Sanctuary's Founding Elephant, arrived on March 3, 1995.

She was followed by Barbara on April 25, 1996. After being captured in the wild, Barbara spent nearly 30 years performing in circuses.

Jenny arrived on Sept 11th of the same year. Jenny was also retired from the circus industry.

Jenny was followed by Shirley on July 6, 1999. The story of Shirley and Jenny's reunion at The Sanctuary garnered widespread media attention. The two elephants had performed together in the circus many years before. Upon seeing one another in their new Sanctuary home, both elephants showed signs of excitement and affection towards one another. Jenny and Shirley would be very close for the rest of Jenny's life.

On September 29, 1999, Bunny arrived after being retired from a zoo in Indiana.

Sissy, having spent most of her life in various Texas zoos, arrived on January 26, 2000.

Winkie came on September 12 of the same year. She previously lived at a zoo in Wisconsin.

Tina, born at the Oregon Zoo in 1970, arrived at the sanctuary on August 11, 2003, from Vancouver. She died the following July.

November 23, 2003, Delhi was the first elephant to use the quarantine facility. She was the first of 16 elephants to be confiscated by the USDA from Hawthorn Corporation, a company that trained and rented elephants to circuses, and which became widely known and fined for providing poor care for its elephants.

Tange and Zula, The Sanctuary's first African elephants, arrived February 19, 2004.

Flora joined them March 3.

On November 17, 2004, Lota and Misty arrived. Like Delhi, they were both surrendered by the Hawthorn Corporation. Both Lota and Misty were diagnosed with a human strain of tuberculosis, a disease that was prevalent in the Hawthorn herd.

Lota died on February 9, 2005 of advanced tuberculosis.

On January 30, 2006, Minnie and Lottie were the first two of eight more Asian elephants to arrive at the Sanctuary from the Hawthorn Corporation. They were joined in subsequent days by Queenie, Liz, Debbie, Ronnie, Billie and Frieda. Unfortunately, Sue died December 30, 2005, before she reached the Sanctuary.

On July 21, 2006, Caregiver Joanna Burke was involved in an accident with one of the Asian elephants. She died as a result of her injuries. Per her family's wishes, she was laid to rest at The Sanctuary.

On October 17, 2006, Jenny died from an undetermined illness. She was 34.

Dulary, from the Philadelphia Zoo, arrived on May 1, 2007.

On March 11, 2008, Delhi died at age 62.

Queenie died on March 29, 2008, 18 days after her friend, Delhi. Both were formerly owned by the Hawthorn Corporation.

Ned, confiscated by the USDA from his owner in Florida, arrived on November 9, 2008. He was The Sanctuary's only male resident. His stay was intended to be temporary, Ned was at The Sanctuary to recuperate and gain strength.

Zula died on January 11, 2009. Her death was determined to be caused by circulatory collapse and probably arrhythmia.

On May 14, 2009 Bunny died.

Ned, having never regained his health, died the following day.

The Elephant Sanctuary's Welcome Center opened in August 2010.

Lottie died on October 10, 2010.

Dulary died on December 23, 2013. She was followed by Frieda, who died on March 9, 2015.


 * I just checked the webpage, and the current census is 10 elephants: 3 Africans, and seven Asians. I believe it should be noted that though many elephants die at The Elephant Sanctuary, Ms. Buckley's original charge, Tarra, is still kicking it!  After 23 years!  These elephants are "retired" or surrendered because they are old and/or sick, so losses are to be expected.  Most, if not all, live longer and better-quality lives at The Elephant Sanctuary than they probably would have otherwise.  Just sayin'...  rags (talk) 23:18, 19 March 2018 (UTC)