Talk:The Eleventh Hour (Doctor Who)

This isn't a dalek story
Somebody has tagged this article with a template indicating that the episode is a dalek story. The daleks appear in passing, in a scan of earth's records viewed by the Atraxi. On the same logic one could call the episode a "first doctor story" (and a second, a third, and so on). It isn't a dalek story. Tasty monster (=TS ) 17:18, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's listed as a minor appearance. Whether a short clip should be listed as a minor appearance is another matter though. DonQuixote (talk) 11:41, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, if it drills down to that level of detail, there's on harm in having it here. The daleks are a very important part of the Doctor Who story but their appearances are sparse, so it makes sense to link all such appearances, even minor ones.


 * In the real world, they are also possibly unique in that they are the intellectual property of the late Terry Nation and appearances are (or have been) subject to agreements with his estate. Tasty monster (=TS ) 16:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I realize I'm coming in late on this, but I think anybody who watches this episode thinking they'll see something on the Daleks will be sorely disappointed. Nerfer (talk) 05:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Weird fan stuff in the plot description
As a fan I'd be perfectly happy to discuss, with other fans, the question of the date of the Doctor's encounter with young Amelia, and the significance if any of the 1990 date on the NHS badge worn over a decade later by grown-up Amy's nurse friend on the village green. But now our plot description dates that first encounter to 1996 and introduces fannish speculation  about the presence of the London Eye three years before it was assembled. I submit that this kind of thing is not obviously part of the plot.

If these points should later turn out to be a crucial part of some plot arc, then we can revise the plot description. But in the meantime this kind of stuff does not belong in the plot description (do I have to remind editors that this is a work of fiction, that there is no Rose Tyler and no Powell Estate?) Tasty monster (=TS ) 20:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know about the London eye stuff, but I think the dates are relevant since everything converges on the date of June 26 2010 which is the wedding of Amy. Not often are events so precisely dated. June 1996 and 2008 are sourced from the shooting script as reproduced in DWM 421 page 24 and following. Hektor (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Doctor Who's approach to notions of consistency, continuity and canon have always been pretty relaxed. If it should really prove to be relevant, discuss the date stuff under continuity. You will be expected to say why it's important, though. There are one or two pretty good Who wiki sites that would absolutely love this stuff and don't have the burden of sticking to the encyclopedic standards set for Wikipedia. Tasty monster (=TS ) 21:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The production team swiftly admitted at the time that the 1990 date on the NHS badge was a goof, and that nothing plotwise should be read into it. Sorry, no citation, but was in either a Dr Who Confidential and/or an issue of Doctor Who Magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.137.179 (talk) 02:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Continuity
I am removing a bunch of things that have ended in this section and shouldn't be, e.g. characters repeating phrases or situations. The cloister bell ringing isn't a noteworthy item of continuity any more than the Doctor using his screwdriver. It's just part of the show. As for saying "what what what", it's plain silly... Mezigue (talk) 10:06, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Copy-edit
Per request, did a couple passes. Feedback encouraged! Comments:
 * Describe the Doctor's costume (did he use "bow ties are cool?")
 * Describe the kissogram a bit. It works both as a hoot and as a commentary on the difficulties young people face in getting started.
 * Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 17:22, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll take the suggestions if I can find good sources for them. The costumes are in Doctor Who (series 5) and I'm not sure they are completely necessary here. It could depend. Glimmer721  talk  00:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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