Talk:The Eleventh Hour (book)

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COOL Award
This article has a template and category implying that it won a COOL Award, but no direct claim in the article and no reference to that fact. Is such a reference available, or should the template and category be removed? -- Mikeblas (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Reversion of title
Many years ago, I noticed the similarity between this page's main title, The Eleventh Hour (book), and the book "11th Hour," part of a well-known murder series by James Patterson. Both have similar names, and both are mystery novels. To avoid confusion, I renamed the title of this article to The Eleventh Hour (children's book), and pointed The Eleventh Hour (book) to the DAB for The Eleventh Hour. About a week ago moved the page over the original title. I do not see any discussion about the change. I note that searching for "eleventh hour james patterson" returns over one million results, while "eleventh hour graeme base" returns 600,000 results. While not definitive, per WP:TITLE, this is a good test. Similarly, on Google Books, it is 22,300 vs. 1,010, and on Google News, 2,920 vs. 286. I would argue that the reversion should be undone. I could make the argument that (book) should point directly to the article on Patterson's book (via redirect). Recognizing the difference in stylings (Patterson's does not prefix "The," and uses numeric titling instead of spelling out Eleventh), that did not seem appropriate to me. The primary goal of selecting between competing articles for a title is to have readers find what they expected without surprising results, and I believe my work back in 2013 does that better than the current setup. I can understand the competing argument, but unless it builds strong support, the long-established status quo is also a factor. Dovid (talk) 15:29, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Since the books have different titles (one contains "the" and one doesn't), there's no need for additional disambiguation in the form of "children's book" vs. "book". That said, am "about" hatnote seems in order for this page. AJD (talk) 19:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging who requested the technical move so they can provide any additional input. --  Dane  talk  22:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)