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Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2023
Taylor Nation (Taylor Swift Offical Company) has confirmed the records of attendance via their facebook post. With this info you can update the attendance section. 74.123.249.41 (talk) 07:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Callme mirela &#127809; 13:52, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 June 2023
add “seven” and “The Story of Us” into the surprise song section. “seven” featured Aaron Dessner as a special guest. DriftDude13 (talk) 05:33, 18 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JML1148 (talk &#124; contribs) JML1148 (talk &#124; contribs) 06:35, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅  ℛonherry  ☘  07:02, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

2024 dates
Taylor has officially announced that the tour will extend into 2024, ending on August 17 in London. 64.184.58.240 (talk) 16:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ HorrorLover555 (talk) 00:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 July 2023
Change July 7 – Kansas City: "Never Grow Up" and "When Emma Falls in Love"

to July 7 – Kansas City: "Never Grow Up" and "When Emma Falls in Love" July 8 - Kansas City: "Last Kiss" and "Dorothea" BlueOwl17 (talk) 06:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -Lemonaka‎  02:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Source already present in article.  Heart  (talk) 02:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 July 2023
Under ‘Concert Synopsis’, Long Live is now performed after Enchanted. Please add this because it is a permanent addition to the setlist. 2600:4040:9395:F500:D825:3FD6:7C29:2E5C (talk) 11:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done See The_Eras_Tour. Deauthorized. (talk) 16:55, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 July 2023
In the surprise song section, on cincinnati night 2, 3 surprise songs were performed, “Ivy (with Aaron Dessner)”, “I miss you, I'm Sorry”, and "Call It What You Want”. Marysblige (talk) 15:23, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Call It What You Want and Ivy (with Aaron Dessner) are already listed in the surprise song section, and I Miss You, I'm Sorry is mentioned in the notes above that. Deauthorized. (talk) 15:32, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Separate article for the controversy
Should the Ticketmaster fiasco have its own article? It has garnered so much media/political attention and easily passes WP:N; controversies smaller than this have their own article. I'd like to hear what other contributors of this article think before acting on my impulse. Thanks.  ℛonherry  ☘  05:08, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I see that you created 2022 Ticketmaster controversy, but for the record I agree that it is a good call. The SandDoctor  Talk 17:30, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Cool! Yes, I wanted to hear some opinions, but then I decided I'll be bold and give it a shot.  ℛonherry  ☘  17:36, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Argentina and Brazil
Journalists in Argentina and Brazil said Taylor would tour said countries this fall. Taylor herself has yet to confirm that. 96.227.141.216 (talk) 01:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)


 * And that's why the prose is "Journalists said" and not "Swift said".  ℛonherry  ☘  18:27, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * There are now reports that she won't tour in South America (and Latin America as whole leg) anymore. Chile and Argentina have apparently been discarded, Mexico is the only country with closed dates while Brasil is still hanging on negociations 😢 Malas noticias para los "swifties": Taylor Swift no vendría a Chile este año by CNN Chile WeNeverGoOutOfStyle (talk) 22:38, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Aw, man! Well, good thing Taylor will announce international tour dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.141.216 (talk) 14:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect claim
The article page seems to be protected, but it makes a false claim under 'Commercial performance': "Swift's five-show run at SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles also stands to generate the highest boxscore at a single venue in the U.S. She could break the SoFi Stadium record set by South Korean boy group BTS' four shows in 2022, which grossed $33.3 million, and the all-time U.S. record held by Bruce Springsteen's 10-night stand at Giants Stadium in 2003, which grossed $38.7 million." The all-time U.S. record for a single venue run is Harry Styles at MSG in 2022, with a gross of $63M, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_On_Tour

... NeverGetItWong (talk) 01:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Surprise songs (Set list)
Since the surprise songs list at the Set list section is going to eventually increase show after show, would not be a better option to make a collapsible list similar to the one featured on this page? Of course this when its lenght has reached several rows (e.g. show number 30) WeNeverGoOutOfStyle (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It makes more sense to me to use a list like on The 1989 World Tour and Reputation Stadium Tour instead of the table. Rfl0216 (talk) 17:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I edited the table before I read this comment but I thought condensing the list into a table would be easier to read. But you can change it back if you don't like the look Rietzef (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

"I Miss You, I'm Sorry" with Gracie Abrams should be added to the surprise songs section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freewoman04 (talk • contribs) 13:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


 * please add Long Live for Night 1 in Kansas City for Taylor Swift that's what she sung in Kansas City, she had three surprise songs since the Speak Now ( Taylor's Version) was released on two days ago just wanted to let u know 2001:48F8:9004:D56:35F8:285A:EAED:53E1 (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

United Kingdom
Just because the U.S. leg ends in Inglewood doesn't mean it concludes the tour altogether. Here's multiple sources about Taylor on the verge of confirming shows in the United Kingdom. 96.227.141.216 (talk) 12:36, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sunderland Echo
 * Burnley Express
 * Lancaster Guardian
 * There is a huge difference between "could" like the articles are suggesting and actual announcements of the shows. If she did announce shows, then these sources provided wouldn't be using "could". Until there are news sources that actually show that she has really announced tour dates, then it has to be clear that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. HorrorLover555 (talk) 21:23, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Taxpayer dollars and tributes
Should we be having a discussion about the taxpayer costs of all these tributes to Ms. Swift? It’s not free to change road signs and names and judges changing stadium names for some singer don’t work for free you know.

Not to mention the fact her albums are slapped with enough parental advisory stickers to make a gangster rapper blush, and her actual benefit to society singing songs about men leaving her and then lazily re-recording them because she wants to play the victim once more with the masters “controversy” and wishes to bully the owners? Flappjackk (talk) 14:31, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * According to all reliable sources I have seen, Swift has actually brought in taxes for some cities she's toured.[1 ][2 ] I cannot find any material referring to a negative impact on taxpayers in her city. I feel talking about it in the article would violate WP:UNDUE and WP:NOCITE.
 * Discussion referring to how explicit her albums are or the content of her songs or the relationship behind her re-recording would probably not fit WP:RELEVANCE and overall does not have much reason to be put in an article about a concert tour. OfTheUsername (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I would note here that Flappjackk has made subsequent unsourced (otherwise defamatory) edits relating to Ms. Swift and that this appears to have not been a suggestion made in good faith. The SandDoctor  Talk 17:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Flapjackk is confirmed to be a sockpuppet by a long-term abuser. See here for reference. Shuipzv3 (talk) 14:39, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

More shows
she just announced some for Canada and us on Instagram 2603:6011:D02:407B:9D01:9AD2:C6C4:85A (talk) 14:20, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: ENWR 1510 Writing and Critical Inquiry
— Assignment last updated by Wgwilliams (talk) 02:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Citing for attendance
Shouldn't the attendance numbers in the table have citations?

Maybe they do but I don't see them. OfTheUsername (talk) 21:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Celebrity and Friend Attendance
All of the confirmed Celebrity Attendance at the Eras Tour (Not Including Opening Acts):

March 17 and 18, 2023 (Glendale Shows) - Cara Delevingne, Hayley Williams, Samara Weaving, J.J. Watt, Laura Dern (& Family), Emma Stone, Este, Danielle, and Alana Haim.

March 24 and 25, 2023 (Las Vegas Shows) - Marcus Mumford, Khalen Saunders (& Family), Shania Twain, Emma Watson, Este Haim, Chloë Grace Moretz, Diplo, Ellen Pompeo and Sienna Pompeo, Danica Patrick, Nathan Chen, and Emma Roberts.

March 31, April 1 and 2, 2023 (Arlington Shows) - Jack Antonoff (& Fiance Margaret Qualley), Selena Gomez (& sister, Gracie), Ethan Hawke

April 13-15, 2023 (Tampa Shows) - JoAnna Garcia Swisher, Billy Joel (& Family), Aaron Dessner

April 21-23, 2023 (Houston Shows) - Joanna Gaines

April 28-30, 2023 (Atlanta Shows) - Joe Locke,

May 5-7, 2023 (Nashville Shows) - Lily Aldridge, Gigi Hadid, Matty Healy, Mariska Hargitay, Reese Witherspoon & Ava Phillippe, and Abigail Anderson

May 12-14, 2023 (Philadelphia Shows) - Blake Lively, Inez Lively, James Lively, Nicole Kidman, Keith Urban, Jennifer Lawerence, Lena Dunham, Sabrina Carpenter, Bo Burnham, Gigi Hadid, Antoni Porowski & Kevin Harrington, Matty Healy,

May 19-21, 2023 (Foxborough Shows) -

May 26-28, 2023 (East Rutherford Shows) - Rachel Zegler, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Maren Morris, Cara Delevinge, Shawn Mendes, Camila Cabello

June 2-4, 2023 (Chicago Shows) -

June 9 and 10, 2023 (Detroit Shows) -

June 16 and 17, 2023 (Pittsburgh Shows) -

June 23 and 24, 2023 (Minneapolis Shows) -

June 30 and July 1, 2023 (Cincinnati Shows) -

July 7 and 8, 2023 (Kansas City Shows) -

July 14 and 15, 2023 (Denver Shows) -

July 22 and 23, 2023 (Seattle Shows) -

July 28 and 29, 2023 (Santa Clara Shows) -

August 3-5 and 8 and 9, 2023 (Los Angeles Shows) - Noahkutnick27 (talk) 02:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey there, I had to remove that section from the article, as you did not provide any reliable sources stating on this, as well as having included it without any consensus from the talk page. Let's see if we can work on if we can keep the section and re-work it to fit in, or if it should just stay removed for now. HorrorLover555 (talk) 03:26, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Where do I put my source? Noahkutnick27 (talk) 03:18, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The question is, where are you getting all this information from of all the celebrities coming to the shows? HorrorLover555 (talk) 07:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * From those celebrity's social medias, from Billboard, from others spotting them at the concerts. Noahkutnick27 (talk) 03:28, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure celebrity attendance is suitable for an encyclopedic article. Shuipzv3 (talk) 12:35, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It shows how big of an event it is. Why do y'all care so much? Noahkutnick27 (talk) 00:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. If the aim is to show the scale of the event, I think there are several indicators already covered in the article, e.g. the unprecedented demand for tickets, the boost to tourism revenue, the number of honors given by city administrations and state governments, and the press coverage including the previous points. Shuipzv3 (talk) 12:03, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fan page.  ℛonherry  ☘  20:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Latin America
Taylor has just announced dates in Mexico, Argentina, and Brazil, with Sabrina Carpenter as the opening act. 64.184.58.240 (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Reference has been added, as well as a source from Variety. With these, the speculative questions about "international tour dates" should come to a halt. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:45, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

End?
Why does the article say things like "is set to end on November 26, 2023, in São Paulo, Brazil" when sources clearly state that there will be more international dates announced? Unlimitedlead (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I believe I covered on it in a previous discussion, but there is a difference between "they will announce more international dates" and "they have announced more international dates". Saying that will announce it soon, is more speculative. The thing is, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and we can't just add speculative material in unless they are pretty much confirmed to be true. If confirmed, there would be plenty of news sources covering on that. HorrorLover555 (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why I was specifically pinged, but like HorrorLover555 clarified, Wikipedia cannot be speculative, especially the lead, and therefore the end date shall be whatever is the last date of the tour. It was Inglewood, California before the LatAm dates were announced, and now it's Sao Paulo. Regards.  ℛonherry  ☘  04:43, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @HorrorLover555@Ronherry But it is not speculative? On this post, Taylor said, "additional international dates will be announced soon"? Unlimitedlead (talk) 12:32, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Would it be a non-speculative option to simply say "and international dates to be announced soon" (or something similar) either citing the Instagram post or a reliable, independent source restating the same information? OfTheUsername (talk) 14:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I should think so. Unlimitedlead (talk) 15:24, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It is, because you're assuming the "additional dates" are gonna be after Sao Paulo?? There are two entire untouched months between the US and LatAm legs. Please go through WP:CRYSTAL. Wikipedia cannot include fan speculations unless they're actually proven true eventually, supported by multiple reliable sources. As of current sources, Sao Paulo is the last date. It's as simple as that.  ℛonherry  ☘  19:39, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. Apologies for any confusion. Unlimitedlead (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Will Attendance Be Added?
Glendale, Arlington, Tampa, Nashville, and East Rutherford's attendance for all nights together has been released (they list there sources in the thread), so why aren't y'all adding it? I don't have enough edits to edit this page, so I need y'all to do something, if you don't mind. LandonM170 (talk) 22:00, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Twitter is not a reliable source for boxscore. HorrorLover555 (talk) 00:30, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Any idea if Billboard Boxscore will update attendance and revenue soon? From my judgement this link hasn't been updated for quite some time.. Ippantekina (talk) 04:24, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * From what I know, the boxscores are only accessable to Pro subscribers on Billboard, and has been for a while now. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:10, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't tweets from the venues themselves pass WP:TWITTER? OfTheUsername (talk) 04:18, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 June 2023
Change the setlist note from 'at shows where Phoebe Bridgers opened Nothing New was played...' to 'at shows where Phoebe Bridgers was scheduled to open (including the third show at Nashville...'. The table lists no opening acts for the third show in Nashville, where they were cancelled, but this creates a lot of ambiguity. There is no way of telling from the Wikipedia page that Phoebe Bridgers was scheduled to open at this show and that, although her opening act was cancelled, she did come out and play Nothing New with Taylor. The current page implies she didn't. JamesSF (talk) 10:49, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

❌ No contradiction or implication seen; footnote already present. Iseult  Δx parlez moi 14:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 June 2023
In the concert hypnosis section, it states that the song being played before Taylor Swift comes on stage is Lesley Gore’s version of “You Dont Own Me” but it is actually Dusty Springfield’s 1964 version of the song. Lucianoboyce13 (talk) 20:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. OfTheUsername (talk) 23:55, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

laser lights are not used on this tour.
there are no lasers in the production. there are moving lights, LEDs and a few Robe RoboSpot fixtures used as follow spots. 2604:CA00:149:B13:0:0:267:5C4B (talk) 01:14, 21 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. OfTheUsername (talk) 04:20, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Source?  ℛonherry  ☘  12:49, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 June 2023
Slaythehousedown (talk) 05:49, 27 June 2023 (UTC) To Glendale segments of tributes, add how ADOT had variable message signs while entering Glendale while driving on the freeway. such as the sign that said, " Cut off? Don't get Bad Blood, Shake it off." Homage to her 2 hit singles off the record "1989".


 * @Slaythehousedown Could you provide a source? Cherrell410 (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. Here is a link to the local news at the time, providing sourcing. https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2018/05/08/adot-wants-motorists-shake-off-before-taylor-swift-concert/590495002/. Slaythehousedown (talk) 21:54, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Continents should be mandatory
I think it should be mandatory to divide the countries in continents. Otherwise, people won't know which continents the countries Taylor is touring are in. 96.227.141.216 (talk) 09:52, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect Claim - Venue Records - Tokyo Dome
Mariah Carey scheduled four shows at the Tokyo Dome on the Butterfly World Tour in 1998. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_World_Tour Jritzie24 (talk) 23:12, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The record is for shows on consecutive dates, which Carey's shows weren't. I've edited the article to clarify this. BlueSwede92 (talk) 10:47, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Tour Dates Should Be Separated By Continent
Why aren't the Tour Dates divided by continents like every other concert tour dates of every artist in Wikipedia?

I think this should be done, it would give the show dates a better look, tidier and in concordance with every other tour. 2620:0:1051:200:8A8E:2B2A:408F:CB23 (talk) 09:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 July 2023
Change X
 * "Long Live" was added after "Enchanted" as part of the Speak Now act starting with the Kansas City shows.

to Y
 * "Long Live" was added after "Enchanted" as part of the Speak Now act starting with the Kansas City shows.
 * "no body, no crime" replaced "'tis the damn season" as part of the evermore act on Seattle night one. BlueOwl17 (talk) 07:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:59, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Separate article
The economic and cultural impact of the Eras Tour has amassed lots of independent coverage separate from the tour's music/performances. And more verified data and statistics keeps arriving. Not to mention that the tour hasn't even gone international yet. I think the impact sections can become a separate article, as it passes all the requirements for a new article.  ℛonherry  ☘  10:26, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 July 2023
Seattle Night 2 Surprise songs were Message In A Bottle and Tied Together With A Smile Cjsmith3md (talk) 11:44, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:38, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Jonesey95
 * https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/seattle/surprise-songs-taylor-swift-concert-seattle/281-15eb9dd1-c2d1-4906-bb4a-504c110f1d8f
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:32, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

I can't access the content, but this might help: --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:32, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/music/taylor-swift-night-2-surprise-songs-in-seattle-dig-deep/
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 July 2023
Surprise songs for the 28th of July: Right Where You Left Me, Castles Crumbling 71.10.116.34 (talk) 06:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done ARandomName123 (talk) 22:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Several venue records still not listed
- First woman to headline a show at Lisbon's Estádio da Luz and Madrid's Estadio Santiago Bernabeu - First woman to schedule three shows on a single tour at Stockholm's Friends Arena and Gelsenkirchen's Veltins Arena - First artist to schedule three shows on a single tour at Edinburgh's Murrayfield Stadium, Liverpool's Anfield and Dublin's Aviva Stadium - First woman to schedule four, five and six shows on a single tour at London's Wembley Stadium

You can check out every venue's concert history here. https://www.concertarchives.org/ FaIsegod (talk) 00:52, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 August 2023
Move the note about Ice Spice performing Karma in East Rutherford from the notes to the surprise songs to the notes to the setlist. JamesSF (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's fine as written. The set list is specific to the March 17 show in Glendale, with subsequent sections documenting some of the exceptions to that base program. Xan747 (talk) 19:11, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Error on the set list
The set list is now different than the one shown, the song “Long Live” is now added to the Speak Now era after the song “Enchanted”. And the song “Invisible String” is now replaced with the song “The 1”. and the song “‘Tis The Damn Season” was replaced with the song “No Body, No Crime” but I understand if ‘Tis The Damn Season doesn’t change because I think that she changed it for the shows where the band HAIM is the opener act and I think it will be on the set list again when they don’t open her shows anymore 147.235.221.174 (talk) 15:54, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Those changes are already listed in the Alterations subsection; the main set list reflects the opening night set list in Glendale. Nothing to change. Rfl0216 (talk) 16:24, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 August 2023
I would like to add the surprise songs "I Can See You" and "Maroon" for LA night one. 2A02:3033:403:FF85:3D8F:11CC:E8A8:7ECA (talk) 06:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 21:39, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Update to tour list
Add Levi Stadium dates after Lumen Field. 70.36.193.220 (talk) 12:53, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * ✔️ OfTheUsername (talk) 16:07, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Update records
Hello everybody.

I note that the records for the Eras Tour are out of date. The Spanish Wikipedia is doing better in that sense than here, so I share the missing information to add, since I can't edit the article:

1. Friends Arena (Sweden):

2. Estádio da Luz (Portugal):

3. BT Murrayfield Stadium (UK):

4. Anfield (UK):

5. Wembley Stadium (UK):

6. Aviva Stadium (Ireland):

7. Johan Cruff Arena (Netherlands):

8. Veltinz-Arena (Germany):

9. Hard Rock Stadium (USA):

10. Caesars Superdome (USA):

11. Lucas Oil Stadium (USA):

12. Rogers Centre (Canada):

I make the clarification that the code of the references is in Spanish, so modify the code accordingly. Thank you for your time.

190.25.161.45 (talk) 19:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay. I see that the records that needed a citation have already been referenced, but more records are missing. 186.30.44.44 (talk) 18:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 August 2023
Change 'will conclude on August 9, 2023' to 'concluded on August 9, 2023' 68.100.43.168 (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ -Lemonaka‎  01:11, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 August 2023
Missing are the records that were broken at Friends Arena, BT Murrayfield Stadium, Anfield, Wembley Stadium, Aviva Stadium, Johan Cruff Arena and Veltinz-Arena. Reference links placed in the names of the stadiums. 186.30.41.73 (talk) 17:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 15:47, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 August 2023
I'd change the setlist description back to the first show on March 17 at Glendale, Arizona so its more clear and is not confusing as it says "The same set list was used during every show" on which it was not as some songs were added and or replaced. Karatment (talk) 06:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 09:48, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 August 2023
The tour dates in the latter part of the article are missing dates from London, both in June and for the second appearance in August. Bungleyy (talk) 15:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 15:45, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 August 2023
Change X August 24: Mexico City: TBA

to Y August 24: Mexico City: "I Forgot That You Existed" and "Sweet Nothing" BlueOwl17 (talk) 05:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Jimmie Wiki in Special:Diff/1172142051 – Recoil16 (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 August 2023
Change X August 24 – Mexico City: "I Forgot That You Existed" and "Sweet Nothing"

to Y August 24 – Mexico City: "I Forgot That You Existed" and "Sweet Nothing" August 25 - Mexico City: "Tell Me Why" and "Snow on the Beach" BlueOwl17 (talk) 05:10, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 00:11, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 August 2023
Change X to Y
 * August 26 – Mexico City: "Cornelia Street" and "You're on Your Own, Kid"
 * August 26 - Mexico City: "Cornelia Street" and "You're on Your Own, Kid"
 * August 27 - Mexico City: "Afterglow" and "Maroon" BlueOwl17 (talk) 04:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 18:37, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 September 2023
In the Eras Tour film section, a quote from Savannah Walsh includes redundant wording:

Savannah Walsh opined that the film arrived just when "just when moviegoing needs it most"

The first "just when" can be removed. Contrapak (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌ Said issue was moved to Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour, which I have resolved. ayakanaa  ( t · c ) 04:49, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 September 2023
It is not "all-stadium" tour, the eras will be taking place at Paris La Défense Arena which is an arena Newpicarchive (talk) 19:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 23:32, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 September 2023
in the opening sentence, the link "eras" leads to a page with no relevance to the topic. the correct link would simply be "eras", or to have no link at all. 2A00:23C8:92B:5E01:2C1F:EE1E:3172:79E1 (talk) 12:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 02:28, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 October 2023
The Speak Now act now includes the song 'Long Live (Taylor's Version)', so you should add that. They play the song right after 'Enchanted (Taylor's Version)'. Thank you! BlackandWhitePandas (talk) 03:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 04:01, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Surprise song guitar and piano
The table for surprise songs just has the acoustic guitar not piano songs. Shouldn’t it have both?(23.123.210.20 (talk) 05:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC))


 * it should but someone for whatever won’t stop changing it so that only 1 of the surprise songs is shown and that tim mcgraw wasn’t a surprise song 73.230.17.27 (talk) 06:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are going to place an argument regarding an edit, please do so with reliable sources, and not based on what you find the "most logical" about your favorite music artist. The set list represents the first show only, and is derived from a multitude of reliable sources that list the set list of the opening concert that way.  ℛonherry  ☘  06:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ronherry I agree with IPs. Even though the set list may only be representative of the March 17 show, there is still no evidence that Act IX has anything to do with Taylor Swift (album) at all. She performed one song from the album at two of the three shows that have already happened, and at one of the three she didn't perform any at all. Plus, if the setlist is representative of the March 17 show, "Mirrorball" should replace Surprise song as it was performed that night. No evidence that "Mirrorball" is a permanent song = No evidence that "Tim McGraw" is a permanent song, they should be treated the same. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 06:11, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * But that is not how the multitude of sources listed the set list of the first Glendale show. A majority of them mentioned the "surprise song" slot, followed by "Tim McGraw". "evidence that Mirrorball is a permanent song = No evidence that Tim McGraw is a permanent song" is short sighted because it is not that simple; this is a grey area. In sources (of Glendale March 17), mirrorball's slot has the distinction of a "surprise" song unlike Tim McGraw. There is a clear difference. Also, you might show some sources listing Tim McGraw as a surprise song, but that is because of the second show, not the first show. Billboard is one of the reliable music sources, but not the supreme one. Rolling Stone, Variety, NYT, WSJ etc list the 36th setlist track as the "surprise song" and the 37th track as "Tim McGraw" and that is why I also believe so.  ℛonherry  ☘  06:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Here are some sources that show the full set list but do not mention a surprise song, after Tim McGraw, instead all three simply name both Tim McGraw and Mirrorball as songs performed. In the Variety article, they differentiate the two songs as being acoustic, but still no mention to only one being a surprise song. This along with the fact that at the last three shows there have been two surprise songs each, suggests that Tim McGraw was in fact a surprise song, and people misunderstood, due to there not being a dedicated spot for her Debut album.
 * As such the section for her debut album, should be retitled Acoustic set or or Surprise songs, or something along those lines, and include a surprise guitar song and surprise piano song, since that is what happens at the show.
 * https://variety.com/2023/music/news/taylor-swift-eras-tour-setlist-1235552488/
 * https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/03/18/taylor-swift-set-list-eras-tour/11499422002/
 * https://pitchfork.com/news/heres-what-happened-at-taylor-swifts-eras-tour-opener-setlist-and-more/ Getawaycar13 (talk) 06:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * here is another article that lays out each album and section of the concert, and includes a wildcard section for the two different acoustic songs each night. https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/03/24/taylor-swift-eras-tour-setlist-las-vegas/70043580007/ Getawaycar13 (talk) 06:49, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Doggy54321 edited the section to include the second suprise songs in the table, after which I rephrased the note alongside Tim McGraw to mention how it was replaced with another suprise song moving forward. I think this version of the section is the best one in terms of clarity. ℛonherry  ☘  07:35, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with everyone else's arguments that "Tim McGraw" should be listed as a surprise song rather than as a part of the set list, with the section listed as "acoustic surprise songs". Quite a bit of sources state that the two songs are surprise songs and don't indicate the section as the debut album section nor note that "Tim McGraw" is a paart of the set list. Including the links provided by Getawaycar13:


 * https://www.capitalfm.com/features/taylor-swift-eras-tour-setlist/ (which specifically notates that the section is "The Surprise Acoustic Set")
 * https://www.billboard.com/lists/taylor-swift-eras-tour-las-vegas-concert-review-surprises/love-for-lana-del-rey/


 * Ronherry, can you provide the updated sources that were published after the first show (so the sources can take into account the future shows and be written based on non-outdated information) that state Tim McGraw is a part of the tour's set list?


 * As stated previously by Doggy54321, there is no evidence that Act IX has anything to do with the album Taylor Swift at all, and such a distinction places an unwarranted importance on the first show's surprise songs. Mcyossi26 (talk) 04:40, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * My point was that the sources published after the first show should not count as they refer to the shows after the first show, whereas the set list of every tour article in Wikipedia follows only the first show of a tour. Nevertheless, since several editors feel strongly about this, I think act XI can be renamed as Acoustic set.  ℛonherry  ☘  06:42, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with Act IX being renamed to "Acoustic Set". No evidence is present on Act IX being involved with the first album, and like it says in the setlist section: it "may not represent all shows on the tour" as the shows have setlist changes on each show. HorrorLover555 (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * "Surprise songs" is a better title for the ninth act since ATW10MV was also an acoustic performance but part of the Red act.  ℛonherry  ☘  13:33, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree. HorrorLover555 (talk) 18:08, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposal with Impact of the Eras Tour
I propose merging Impact of the Eras Tour to the Eras Tour article, from which the former was split. I know the size is big but this whole article reads like a WP:MISC comprised of mostly lightweight journalist material (the whole "Related phenomena" section is an example of possible WP:FANCRUFT in terms of both subject and writing style). A better way to go is to cut down whatever feels remotely related to an encyclopedia entry. We don't need a new article for this one, we need more selective and concise writing. Ippantekina (talk) 02:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose. I do not think this article is a case of WP:MISC as several perennial reliable sources (such as The Guardian, Pollstar, The WSJ, Billboard) have covered the tour's impact holistically. The prose in the "Related phenomena" section (do not confused the topic of the section with the tone of the writing style; much of the section is quite literally about the fans from the perspective of critics) are all perfectly sourced and use neutral language and attributions. The tour is not even half way through and the international legs have not even begun yet, but the topic has already garnered more-than-enough independent coverage, size is large enough, and information is presented in a summary-style neutral tone, as per the requirements put forth by WP:SPLIT. Only more year-end, tour-end statistics, data and cultural commentary (which are not related to the music/shows of the Eras Tour, but about its effects on other industries) are going to appear henceforth, which the tour article cannot keep on accommodating despite heavy tweaking. It was time for a split for the welfare and better maintenance of both the articles.
 *  ℛonherry  ☘  06:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I acknowledge that publications have covered the topic extensively but per WP:GNG "significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject merits its own article". This discussion requires more critical input whether this topic actually deserve a standalone article beyond the fact that it has been covered in publications.. also taking into consideration that Wikipedia is not a newspaper that chronicles each-and-every piece of news/journalism. I can also start similar articles such as "Impact of 1989 (Taylor Swift album)" or "Impact of Midnights" supposing I can gather enough material to create a decent-length article. Also billing this article as "Swiftmania" in the Taylor Swift template is confusing. How are these two equivalent? Ippantekina (talk) 06:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This discussion is about the merger proposal of an article, not the Taylor Swift template, which would be a topic of a different discussion (and one where I would not object to change the term in the template). Please stick to the current topic of discussion. Impacts of Midnights and 1989 have clearly not received the same independent notability as this tour, as there are only very little perennial sources that have published comprehensive articles specifically about "Impact of [insert album]". That is why they're currently sections and not articles. And once again, let's not be whatabout-ist here. The topic of discussion is the notability of the Eras Tour's impact as an article. Coming to that, yes, Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Majority citations of the article uses perennial music/business/culture magazines that have analysed/critiqued the tour's impact on economies, businesses, music industry, fashion, and culture. You've placed your argument on why they should be merged in your OP, and I've made mine on why they shouldn't be merged in my first response. If I say anything more, it would be repeating what I've already stated, and I do not want to go in circles. Impact of the Eras Tour passes WP:SPLIT and WP:GNG.  ℛonherry  ☘  07:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I agree with all of the reasons above. RegularboyA (talk) 10:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Ronherry's reply. ItsMarkWbu (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree with Ronherry. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:52, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose I also agree with Ronherry. OfTheUsername (talk) 18:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose – I agree with . — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 10:31, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose Swift and her empire are just way too big not too have more broken down articles like this. As a person who is interested in learning about her it was much easier for me to access this information than when it was all in one big article. I also think her tour is not even halfway done yet, it is going to get so much press and have so many notable moments, it’s too much for one article. Elttaruuu (talk) 01:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, I agree with Ronherry. AverageLogic (talk) 19:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per . This tour has clearly had a much bigger impact that the other tours mentioned. Mukedits (talk) 23:39, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Incidents
I'm a big fan of Taylor Swift aside from Coldplay but I don't see how her disagreement with a security guard and the fact she swallowed a bug during a concert is worthy of inclusion in the article. The earthquake is, but that was already included on Impact of the Eras Tour months ago. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 18:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Same here, I don't think it's notable. Shuipzv3 (talk) 12:20, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree. It's definitely not notable. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:52, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I think the entire 'Incidents' section should be in the Impact of the Eras Tour article, if the incidents are indeed deemed notable. Adding in that looking at the actual video, I don't think the bracelet incident is in the same ballpark of artists getting struck by objects/getting drinks splashed on them. I would argue it only received coverage because these incidents had been in the news recently. amisnaru (talk) 16:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The bracelet incident is mentioned in the article Concert abuse in the 2020s. It may be possible to incorporate that into this or the Impact article, but personally I think it's going to be a bit shoehorned. Not everything has to be connected. Shuipzv3 (talk) 16:31, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed the whole thing. It's clearly WP:FANCRUFT and WP:TRIVIA. We did not have to have a discussion on this.  ℛonherry  ☘  11:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

"The" part of the name?
Is the definite article part of the name, as suggested by the title? The current title includes it, which, as suggested by the official website and the advertising, is taken as part of the name and included in the title per WP:THE. But, the body of the article does not include it as part of the proper noun, and uses lowercase "the Eras Tour" (sentence case). On top of that, we have Impact of the Eras Tour, which indicates it is not part of the name. Anyone have any insight? One of these pages likely needs a page move, just not sure which one. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Point of note, The 1989 World Tour seems to do the same thing: includes "the" in the title, and then uses sentence caps for "the" throughout the article. 〜 Askarion   ✉  13:15, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That's how it works. "The" is indeed part of the title, but it's a tour name, not an album title. Just like the prose in The Beatles, the "the" is not capitalized within the prose. There are no moves required.  ℛonherry  ☘  13:43, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

typo in the "music releases" section
"On November 3, 2023, Hits Double Daily reportad that a live album of the tour has been in talks."

it'd fix it myself, but i don't have extended confirmed protection as of now. best for someone who does to fix it. Vancouvercalico (talk) 14:54, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅. 〜 Askarion   ✉  16:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

2023 in the United States collage submission
This article was proposed as a potential choice for the 2023 in the United States collage. You are free to participate in the collage choice discussion here: Talk:2023 in the United States. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 07:51, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 November 2023
Under the surprise songs listing for November 11, there is an extra "and" before "Is It Over Now?" 20person (talk) 04:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done The 'and' has been removed in an earlier edit. Liu1126 (talk) 13:26, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Concert death
There are reports that a fan died at the most recent show in Rio de Janeiro (apparently due to a heatwave in the country); there is one report out from the Brazilian newspaper Folha de S.Paulo here. I assume that more concrete proof won't come until the morning. Should this be added to the article (and if so, where?) wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  06:19, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Lots more sources available now here, here, here, here and here. Taylor also released a statement. – Peterpie123rww (talk) 11:32, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Should also include that 1,000 fans fainted at the concert stated here RayScript (talk) 12:05, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It should be added to the article. Also should mention Swift's tribute to the fan. --195.99.227.0 (talk) 12:14, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I was looking at the article and think that it definitely is notable to be added, also just confused on where, possibly a new section? QueerFilmNerd  talk 18:16, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 November 2023
(inside 'Latin America' section)

In Rio de Janeiro, a Swift fan died. Ana Clara Benevides Machado, 23, passed away after suffering cardiac arrest while attending Swift’s first show at the Nilton Santos Olympic Stadium in Rio de Janeiro. Temperature in Rio was near 122F and fans were not allowed to bring water by the concert organizer, T4F Time for Fun. (source 1) source 2 LemovisGuadalion (talk) 06:18, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✔️ That has been covered in the "Controversies" section of the article. HorrorLover555 (talk) 08:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Classifying deaths under controversy?
Should the deaths and other incidents in Brazil be covered under the “controversies” heading? It seems uncontroversially tragic and controversies makes it sounds like drama that can be debated Laurenschneider210 (talk) 16:22, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 December 2023
While reading the Commercial performance section, I found there is a sentence said “In December 2023, although Swift's team stated that any boxscore will be official revealed, even when the tour ends.”

But the source where this sentence based on said “The singer’s management has told tour trackers that it will not release any official box-office numbers from the tour, not even when it comes to a close in November 2024, so the totals are very much projections.” Which makes the opinion in this Wiki page against the opinion in original source.

Therefore, can anyone change the line in Wikipedia “In December 2023, although Swift's team stated that any boxscore will be official revealed, even when the tour ends.” to “In December 2023, although Swift's team stated that any boxscore will not be official revealed, even when the tour ends.” Thanks. 2605:B100:313:FCE3:44DD:4665:15EC:AF99 (talk) 01:36, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Extended-protection-unlocked.svg Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Shadow311 (talk) 16:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Notable guests
Is it worth including Travis Kelce's appearances at the tour? I'd say this has been very notable due to intense coverage of this on TikTok and Swift even changing the lyrics in her performance of Karma in Argentina to reference Travis who was a guest at the show standing next to her father. https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/travis-kelce-shocked-taylor-swift-karma-lyric-change-1235472395/

Her reported break-up with Joe Alwyn during the tour has also been much discussed by fans but not sure whether this is verifiable to include. Virgobear (talk) 10:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Change to Set List section
Currently, the set list displayed in the article represents the songs that Taylor sang at the very first show in Glendale, Arizona. However, since then she has changed the set list in considerable ways (mainly adding Long Live and removing invisible string). These (and other) changes are displayed in the Alterations sub-section, but I fear that the current set list, as it is displayed, no longer represents the current set list accurately, as these were changes made early on in the tour which have since become permanent.

I would suggest that the set list is changed with the one at either her November 26th show in São Paulo, as it is currently the latest concert of the tour, or the August 3rd show in Los Angeles, since this is the show that was mainly recorded for the Eras Tour Film. Sofia05M (talk) 21:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, to be as frank as possible, there is a reason why there is a note stating that first show's set list is not intended to represent all shows of the tour. Even so, we need to stick to the sources provided for the section. So in short, I don't think it needs to necessarily change. I don't think sources you have provided from Setlist.fm are going to pass due to the guidelines of WP:NOTRSMUSIC as they are user-generated content. HorrorLover555 (talk) 22:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Images
If these happen to be helpful, here are two images from Lumen Field, Seattle:

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:28, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for uploading them!  ℛonherry  ☘  15:50, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem! Please feel free to place the images in more appropriate categories at Wikimedia Commons. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:51, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for the two photos. The first one is potentially useful, but I'm not sure if the second one suffices for free use. Do you think the second one satisfies De minimis? Ippantekina (talk) 06:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * (shrug) I dunno, I'll let others decide. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:30, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

The tag
Stop removing it. The section blatantly violates WP:CFORK until proven otherwise. 172.85.249.214 (talk) 18:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Based on what evidence? HorrorLover555 (talk) 22:25, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Basically, you are giving readers an insufficient amount of information here and forcing them to go to another page, giving the film WP:UNDUE weight in this section. This is supposed to cover the film extensively, and we only WP:SPLIT if there is so much content we have to fork it out. But there should be more then one mini paragraph here.SwiftFan2024 (talk) 19:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC) —  is a confirmed sock puppet of.
 * I disagree. There is enough information about the film in the section. The film title, release date, and records broken.  ℛonherry  ☘  23:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with Ronherry, plus there is already an article for the film. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging . HorrorLover555 (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2024
The eras tour has not ended it is still going on to this day. She just preformed the eras tour yesterday in Tokyo. 68.196.119.188 (talk) 02:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 02:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Paris La Défense is NOT a stadium
The information provided here is inadequate for readers as it includes a misleading statement like "all-stadium".WP:NPOV stop deleting and prevent adding a necessary note for the fact that Paris La Défense Arena is not a stadium. Furthermore, the claim of an "all-stadium tour" is incorrect since there is still an arena shows included on this tour concert. ShakiraFandom (talk) 14:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, it was at first reverted because it is unnecessary for the lead according to this edit summary here, firstoff. Unless there is an agreement on trimming down a bit on the lead to just referring to it as a concert tour, I think one show in an arena alone isn't going to make a difference as the majority of performances are in stadiums. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging . HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to put this more bluntly, but you (Shakira fandom) are not the supreme authority in categorizing what's a stadium and what's an arena. The Eras Tour is described as an all-stadium tour simply because that's what ALL the sources say. In some countries, arena and stadium are terms used interchangeably. We are not going to argue semantics here. Unless you have a source claiming "the Eras Tour is not a stadium tour" against the zillion sources that say "the Eras Tour is Swift's second stadium tour", please do not disrupt this article's stability. Regards.  ℛonherry  ☘  17:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The note about Paris La Défense Arena is an exception is sourced from the venue's official website itself- It is classified as an indoor arena per La Défense's official website and Google Maps. It is still not an all-stadium tour, technically. No matter how adamantly biased editors convince it. Wikipedia adheres to the principles of verifiability, objectivity, and neutrality, Please read WP:NPOV WP:Accuracy dispute ShakiraFandom (talk) 05:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * And yet you still have not provided a source that supports your claim that the Eras Tour is not an all-stadium tour.  ℛonherry  ☘  07:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The venue's website which you (ShakiraFandom) have provided in the note for your edits, does not prove specifically that the tour is not an all-stadium tour against the many sources that say otherwise. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)