Talk:The Fast and the Furious (2001 film)/Archive 4


 * The plot is extremely similar to that of the 1991 film Point Break. Both films feature an undercover cop infiltrating a gang of extreme sports junkies in order to gain information about a series of heists, in both films the protagonist falls for the sister of the gang's leader and both films end in the protagonist choosing to take up the life of those he was tasked to spy upon. Error in information, protagonist falls for antagonist's ex girlfriend, F&F: Toretto's crew are NOT extreme sports junkies, crew members are car enthusiasts. Similarities are Coincidence. Fast and the Furious being the better film.

The final line seems particularly egregious, but I wanted to bring this to the attention of someone more qualified to judge. Thank you CMD Beaker 00:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

A second movie?
Isn't there a movie called too fast too furious? Is that film like an number two of the original the fast and the furious? I can't find a article 'bout that. --NorwegianMarcus 13:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

2 fast 2 furious

its 2 fast 2 furious, not too fast too furious

Vandalism
Someone vandalized the article, pretty much altering it beyond any intelligent recognition. Lets get this cleaned up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.110.9.90 (talk) 01:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

trivia section
the trivia reference to the gear shifting in the charger is likely wrong. Although an overdrive 4 speed auto is possible, given that the car is (in the movie at least, irrespective of real life) it's _highly unlikely_ in this format. A large supercharged engine produces exceptional amounts of torque, and the use of the lowest gear (1st) would make it almost impossible to hook up as it is. It's often easier and more consistant to take off in second (or run a tighter convertor). It also means the engine will spend a split second in first gear. So hypothetically, it wouldn't be able to use the torque, and the diff ratio (that would allow enough traction off the line, as well at put the engine at the most desirable rpm point through the traps) it would likely have would mean it'd never use (or require) a 4th gear. As such, you often find people have (with very quick cars and very powerful motors) instead run a 2 speed powerglide auto. Aside from it being cheaper to upgrade to a given strength requirement than a 4speed auto, they have an exceptionally well catered to aftermarket, and despite being a GM product, there are adapters and so forth to put them behind practically any other big V8. At the very least, it's _far_ more likely such a car would run a 727 torqueflite, a similarly particularly strong auto, and still cheaper to modify than a 4sp. To play devil's advocate, on a road car it would allow a near ideal drag racing diff ratio, but use of the overdrive for lower rpm highway cruising. Such a car, which was purported to be a drag only car (and appeared to have mechanical injection, which is more often than not a feature on cars running either methanol (alcohol fuel in the US) or that and nitromethane. The stoich a/f ratios of those fuels is far richer than gasoline, requiring around 2x the fuel use per hp, so their potential economy with that fuel would also practically guarantee that it wouldn't have been able to complete the final chase and race scene before running out of fuel (by a long margin).

secondly - I don't know for sure, but it _appears_ that in that final chase that closeups of the riders (teh actors not the stuntmen) featured helmets that had a larger than normal face open area, and lower/further forward chin section. Possibly to allow the actors to be easily identified. Some motorcross helmets are like this but to a lesser extent. It could be that they _are_ unmodified - anyone else able to comment?

clearly a plot rip of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man's_Land_(1987_film)

(and, to a lesser extend of point break too) but i guess "we" dont want to mention it in the article, right? ;-) --Echosmoke 00:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Toyota Supra version
I removed the reference to the Supra in the film being a "Supra RZ". The RZ version was only sold in Japan and maybe Australia. The Supra RZ is similar to but not the same as the USDM Supra turbo model. Furthermore the Supra in the film is the USDM non-turbo model. clearly not a RZ.The Goat 16:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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Impact on popularity of street racing
As far as I remember, this film didn't just have a significant impact on the interest in Japanese modified cars, but also in illegal street racing in general. I think this was most noticeable in the video game market, where games about the scene were springing up left, right and centre for about 3-4 years after the film came out (Midnight Club came out before, but then we had Midnight Club 2 & 3, Need for Speed Underground 1 & 2, Street Racing Syndicate etc.)

I think this is worth including in the article, but I'm not sure how to source it. Any ideas? Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 04:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

&/And
The plot summary uses & instead of "and". I think the ampersand is only supposed to be used to name a set, e.g "Tom & Jerry", "Mr. & Mrs. Smith". It would be nice if someone could take a look at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.97.173 (talk) 19:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

This article is a DISASTER.
The headline says it all. The actual grammar isn't all that bad, but the sentence structure is a MESS and the entire article is written FAR too orally. The entire article needs some MAJOR cleanup. I would do it myself but I'm guessing it'd take around an hour and I don't have the time. But somebody, PLEASE? Bloody hell. This is a shame to the word "encyclopedic". Nizingur (talk) 20:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Nizingur

I Agree. This article needs to be rewritten in an intelligent manner and correct grammar. The plot is decent but it needs fixing up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.21.91 (talk) 18:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the big problem is the plot summary. I replaced the cleanup tag up top, which was dated in 2007, with some more specific plot tags, which will hopefully fix this problem a little sooner.  Given that the plot is about 90% of this article, it's a good place to start.  The problem is, those of us who see problems in the article probably saw too many problems in the film to sit down and spend an hour on this thing. Ha!  To be fair, this is probably the best bad movie ever made.  JohnnyCalifornia (talk) 20:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Rewrote the plot so it's coherent. Hope that helps. Tasha medvedeva (talk) 05:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Also there are clear contradictions.. The main article says that Jesse is killed in the shotout and later down in the cars descriptions is stated that is unknown if he actually died. To cite an example —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.9.165.184 (talk) 16:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Mia's Integra
I could be wrong but I thought that Mia drove a Honda Integra, as evidenced by her headlights, which I'm pretty sure were the larger, full-length ones, not the two split circle headlights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tysis (talk • contribs) 01:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

The merge?
I don't see why the three movies in the series were merged together because it looks really confusing and it was better they way it was before when it was all separated. Hopefully, the merge can be reverted to 3 separate articles. fag —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.128.202 (talk) 17:07, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Using first or last names in plot section?
The plot section needs cleanup for switching between first and last names. It needs to be consistent. serioushat 12:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Related move request
The usage of The Fast and the Furious is under discussion, please see the discussion at Talk:The Fast and the Furious (film series) -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 22:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Character articles
I just wanna know how the articles for the series' characters aren't notable? It's a continuing film series with a huge fanbase. If they're not considered notable, then shouldn't all articles based on film characters be deleted?--The Scourge (talk) 21:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * the inclusion criteria is that they must not consist of entirely plot material, which all of them only had. Non-plot material is stuff such as concept and creation, reception to the character, etc. Indiana Jones is a great example of a good film character article. hbdragon88 (talk) 06:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand this a bit more now. In order for a character of any kind to have its own article, it has to consist of more than just plot material (background, impact, relationships, etc.), correct?--The Scourge (talk) 15:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. hbdragon88 (talk) 17:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Screw that, dude. Each article had all of their cars listed, and Letty had a section (with sources and references) on Bring Back Letty. (talk) 05:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.140.58.107 (talk)


 * Bring Back Letty was a fan campaign whose only references were to the website itself. No third party sources.  In any case, it's more pertinent to Fast & Furious than a separate article. hbdragon88 (talk) 17:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, on Vincent's charactor profile, it said he is probably dead after being shot in the desert by the trucker or killed from the hired drug drivers in the new movie but more than likely he was saved by the helicopter that Brian O'Connor called for in the desert and would have been sent to jail after his recovery for armed robbery? Probably for a near life sentance?87.232.53.149 (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Vincent's fate does not to be inferred since he ultimately reappears in the fifth film. Jamodalamo (talk) 01:06, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Plot, again
People...please see WP:NOT, we provide summaries, not blow by blow accounts. I've revised it to this which I hope is a good plot summary. If it's not, let's at least try to keep the plot at that size. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried cleaning up the plot a little bit (albeit prematurely). There are some details that may be a little extraneous, but I think most of the things included help to clarify the story better. I don't think reducing the length to 400-700 words would adequately do the plot justice Jamodalamo (talk) 01:09, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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The former
What does it mean, the former? 81.30.184.235 (talk) 06:27, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

German film ??
How can this be labelled as a german film? None of the actors are german and not those behind camera either. --Ezzex (talk) 13:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * None of that matters. What matters is that a reliable source has labeled it a German film.  Your own opinions on the film's nationality are irrelevant. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:45, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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