Talk:The Five Thousand Year Leap

Tone of article is not unbiased
The tone of this article is not unbiased. Even in the first sentance the author is labeled as anti-communist and a conservative Mormon, without evidence to support such labels. The labels may be correct; if so support the accusation. Historical accuracy section does not discuss the vast amount of what is accurate. Nearly all of the Founding Fathers were well educated in Common (or Natural) Law. They were all well read with the view of John Locke, DeMontique (spelling?) and the like. The views of liberty expressed in this book are confirmed by observations and writings of DeToqueville.

Which brings me to my final point about this article's bias. Nearly all sources cited by the author of this page are recent, since Glenn Beck made the book prominent. They all appear to be "attack pieces" to counter Beck. Judge the book on its merits, not current political bias. Cite articles written during the time of the revolution in context, not recent article snipping quotes of Founding Fathers (which may/may not be in context) where we cannot see the context of the quote being used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JGWillson (talk • contribs) 19:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed. There is also no reason to label Sean Wilentz as a jacksonian democrat - or, if we want to keep such a label, we also need to point out the political ideologies of Glenn Beck and the Southern Poverty Law Center.  Though better references would mean pre-Glenn-Beck-explosion pieces, since revolutionary-era sources would constitute OR. Knqlf (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * The conflation between Common Law and "Natural Law" is false. And you assertion that "the vast amount" of the book is historically accurate is unsupported. 75.76.213.161 (talk) 19:59, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

No evidence that Founders or Jefferson supported taxing the rich.
The article states:

"He does not mention the Founders’ endorsement of taxing the rich to support the general welfare. Thomas Jefferson, for example, wrote approvingly in 1811 of having federal taxes (then limited to tariffs) fall solely on the wealthy, which meant that “the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings."[6]"

The footnote [6] leads to an article in the New Yorker and does not supply any evidence of the Founders or Jefferson supporting taxing the rich alone.

Also, the word used is "contribution", taxes are hardly a contribution. Early education was supported without tax money.

Also, even if Jefferson supported what was stated, he did not represent the majority because it did not find its way into the Constitution which said that if taxes became necessary they should be applied uniformly. This also applies to the claim of Founder's endorsement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arturo 1929 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 13 December 2012 (UTC)