Talk:The Forsyte Saga

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The Polish text „Fabuła” is iincomplete; in the last volume Soames dyes saving Fleur from a house in fire. 83.31.75.86 (talk) 23:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Merge Soames Forsyte page into The Forsyte Saga main page?
The Soames Forsyte page is currently needing cleanup, and seems to be more like a stub. Is this separate character page warranted, or should that material be worked into the main article? Dl2000 01:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Soames Forsyte is a pretty major fictional character. I would think he deserves his own article. Deb 19:13, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I put the previous content up on Soames Forsyte because the material BEFORE that was highly biased and painted him as a cold wife-rapist. He's really an extremely complex character, full of flaws, who grows and changes throughout the novels.Saxophobia 03:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Popularity of 1967 Forsyte Saga TV Series
The incredible popularity of this series, both in Britain and the United States (1969), was almost a cultural phenomenon and cannot be accounted for by the sheer length of the series. The appeal of the subject matter must reach deeper than that.

I have no idea why the length of the series would have any bearing on its popularity. If it were truly bad television, no one would care to watch it. Although the series is now somewhat dated, the acting is excellent and the issues it addresses (love, duty, women's role in society) are pertinent today.

Rewrite plot section
I think the opening line says it all: "What follows is an account of the adapted miniseries which aired c. 2002." Does anyone have a summary/can anyone write a summary of the books? I'd be willing to help, but it has been a while since I've read them and my copy is in storage at the moment. In any case, I think having a summary of one of the mini-series instead of the novels is unacceptable. -Hazey Jane 22:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I completely agree; and while we're on the topic of the unacceptable, can someone put in the titles of Galsworthy's two trilogy sequels, rather than (or possibly, just, in addition to) something completely unrelated from year later. I'd do it (the plot summary too), but it's been too long....  Cheers, Lindsay 12:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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"Mini-series"?
The 1967 TV version, to which this title is applied, was shown in 26 episodes. How is that a mini-series? 81.158.1.156 (talk) 02:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a mini-series because the late 60s, the 70s, & into the 80s were the grand era of adapting best-selling novels to regular network TV. They never took months to show. They'd do an entire book every single night for a wk or 2, therefore shown in a 'mini' amount of time. You wanted to watch the whole thing, you were in front of your TV set M-F at 9pm for the duration, before VCRs & then DVDs & DVD sets were made affordable to the masses. ScarletRibbons (talk) 10:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The title of Lady
I changed the incorrect expression 'Lady Fleur Mont' into the right ' Fleur, Lady Mont', which is not the same. In Britain, the title of 'Lady' before first name is given only to the daughters of Dukes, Marquisses and Earls; the title before surnames or lands names is short for Marq., Countess, Viscountess and Baroness. The wives of Baronets (such as Fleur) and Knights are referred to with their first name, followed by the title of Lady before their husbands' surname. I know it's complicated, but it's not my idea. Sorry Val —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.55.178.37 (talk) 12:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Radio Serials
I agree with the point above above the term 'mini-series', but life's too short to do other than edit conservatively. There is confusion everywhere about 'series' and 'serial', and it's probably best to avoid either term. I think The Man of Property was first broadcast in 1945, and the various books were serialised several times, in Muriel Levy's adaptations. They were newly dramatised for the 1990 version. I corrected the spelling of Grizelda Hervey's name.

Rogersansom (talk) 21:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

1967 Forsyte Saga did not run on Masterpiece Theater.
My apologies, I misread the article.

Article does not mention the period in which the books are set
I was looking through the article to try to find out which period in history the books were supposed to be set, and could not find it written clearly anywhere in a defined manner. Do people agree with this? and if so, shouldn't this be added somewhere? Jimmy3d0 (talk) 18:42, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Each individual book has the year that it takes place in stated in the article; however, the technical answer to your question is the first novel Property happens at the end of the Victorian Era, and the rest taking place in the Edwardian Era, culminating in "the Roaring Twenties." HammerFilmFan (talk) 05:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

No, those are the publication dates. The Man of Property (our assigned novel in the senior year of high school, 1961) starts at about 4 pm on June 15, 1886. Indian Summer of a Forsyte starts in May of an unspecified year in the early 1890's (old Jolyon is 85 in the opening which combined with his 1806 birth date makes it either 1891 or 1892) and by Chapter VIII has progressed to the onset in 1899 of the (gold-rush driven) second Boer war and the introduction of motor vehicles into London. The latest dates shown in the Forsyte family tree are the marriage of old Jolyon's grandson Jolyon ("Jon") to Anne Wilmot in 1924 and the death of Soames in 1926 concluding the 40-year saga (final chapters of Swan Song). Vaughan Pratt (talk) 19:54, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Publisher(s)
The InfoBox listed "Dover" as publisher, which is obviously wrong. I think the first edition to The Man Of Property was published by William Heinemann, though I expect late volumes might have been Jonathan Cope. The early US rights appear to have gone to Putnam, though some later editions are Scribner's. MarkBernstein (talk) 20:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 08:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

To let - rape?
The letter in 'To Let' says 'forcibly asserted his rights.' This is rape today, but it seems an overstatement or judgment to call it rape given the era and given the fact that J. did not call it rape. 37.99.32.122 (talk) 12:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)