Talk:The Fraud of Feminism

It sure didn't take long for the feminist true-believers to start an irrational attack.

How can there possibly be a blatant copyright infringement for material for which I own the copyright and I referred you. Didn't you fail to notice that I am the author and owner of emasculationofamerica.com. Are you trying to tell me I can't legally do as I please with my own copywitten material? Where is you authority for such conclusions?

Can anyone at Wikipedia open their minds to another unconvential perspective and offer specific constructive (versus nothing but distructive intellectual censorship) criticism that helps convert the tentative article into an acceptable entry? Perhaps it would be helpful if you actually read most of the "non-legal" pages on my website before arriving at extremely critical conclusions. This is information that needs to be widely published in the best interests of the majority. If I'm not a talented enough writer to execute it properly by Wiki or anyone elses standards, I welcome everyone's positive and detailed help.

What exactly is it you objection to in all of the data the articles in fact references? Where exactly is the "opinion" being presented as fact? How is this submission any different than when feminists speculate about all of the things described in the article so far (and on my website), and then present patently false or meaningless and misleading data to support it. What exact form do your editors think an article that your site pretitled "The Fraud of Feminism" would take if it is not citing feminist positions and countering them with logical arguments and legitimate facts? Feminism is nothing but opinions supported by unprove assumptions and invalid and unreliable data.

Oh well. I guess I just wasted my time again. The Feminist true-beleiver censor police control all of the popular communications channels, including ONLY publishing academic "conventional wisdom" and popular "politically correct" opinion Wikipedia. Go ahead. Censor-out the first draft article I submitted if you can do so with a good conscience with respect to the First and Fourteenth Amendment. I've been down this road before with Wiki and don't want to waste more of my time.


 * Point by point:


 * At the bottom of, I see the following: "Copyright © 2000-09. [presumably your name]. All rights reserved." You may certainly do whatever you like with your intellectual property; Wikipedia cannot.  By hosting any text, we present it as Wikipedia's own; hence, by hosting your text, we would be in violation of your copyright on the material.  Further, since all text on Wikipedia is supposed to be freely redistributable and usable by anyone, we would be encouraging anyone who visited the page to violate your copyright as well.  (Additionally, and I hope you'll pardon my saying this, we have no way of knowing that you are who you claim to be.)  For further information, see WP:COPYVIO.


 * The problem with "The Fraud of Feminism" is that it is not an article: it is an essay. It strives to promote one particular viewpoint (that feminism ought to be resisted), which is the antithesis of one of our core policies, WP:NPOV, without which Wikipedia would become a propaganda tool for anyone who cared to use it.  It is not the nature of the point you are trying to make, but the fact that you are trying to make a point at all, that makes this an essay rather than an article, and hence unacceptable for an encyclopedia.  (Think of it this way: suppose you looked up feminism in the Encyclopedia Britannica and found an essay arguing that it was immoral not to be a feminist.  Would that encyclopedia be credible as a piece of scholarship?)


 * On a related note, "feminist true-believer censor police" and other such language is not going to win you any friends or convince anyone of the correctness of your position. If you truly want to contribute to Wikipedia, do not attack others like that; it's quite likely to get you blocked.  (See WP:NPA.)


 * Finally, I would recommend not creating talk pages for articles that have been deleted, as such pages can themselves be speedily deleted (which might look to you like more censorship). A better place to ask about or to contest a speedy deletion (not to complain about it, mind you) is the talkpage of the deleting admin, in this case User_talk:Frank.


 * I hope I've answered your questions.  Anturiaethwr  Talk  00:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)