Talk:The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

Contradiction
There are six seasons of the show according to the article, but the it says Will Smith was the executive producer during seasons 7 and 8. Wat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.137.248.46 (talk) 20:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

12/25 contract
perhaps explain what a 12/25 contract is to make sure readers understand the issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.107.142 (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Carlton Banks was bi-curious?
Anyone else think that is wrong and should be removed from the article? 0nslaught 22:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I never heard of him being bi-curious. I just came to the discussion page to point that out. -Anonymous

i am related to the co-creators of this show, Andy Borowitz, and Susan Borowitz, and from everything that they told me, Carlton was NOT Bi-curious, not at all. If you do not believe me, i will be sure to answer any question about the show.Wagadoogoo (talk) 05:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Why were you trying to find out if Carlton was bi-curious? Did you think you had a shot with him?  Here's a hint: once you're full-on bi, like Carlton, you're no longer curious.  At that point you're in the union.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.51 (talk) 13:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. He ay have done odd things, but was not bi-curious (I love the carlton dance) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.200.168 (talk) 12:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

What happened to Will?
The article seems to list what happened to all the characters in the season finale except Will, himself. The Banks went to the East Coast, if I'm reading right--does that include Will, and if so, why did he go? It's not that I'm particularly interested, but I figure this sort of stuff should be in the article. - Vague | Rant 02:44, May 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * No, he bought an apartment so he could stay at college. --69.136.111.181 00:19, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I like this use of the TV box
It lets us know who played whom, and when. Kudos! *goes to jack your style* --FuriousFreddy 22:05, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

which episode??
which episode do you see evander hollyfield in?? you know the christmas one!! Tell me plz!!

"Deck The Halls", it's available on the season 1 DVD set. - 82.33.77.141 20:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

"I, Ooh, Baby, Baby" Episode
Can anyone describe in detail this episode please? I'm trying to remember if I've seen it or not & I keep missing it on tv. Either that or they just aren't airing it. All the other descriptions I've found are too short & too vague.

Complete theme song
I deleted the sentence that said in syndication only episode 8 uses the full opening credits. I just saw it for episode 2. I am not sure which ones have it and which ones don't.
 * Finished formatting and editing the complete theme song's lyrics. What was there before not only was incomplete (they missed out the very first verse of the song starting with "Now this is a story all about how..." etc.) it also had a number of errors in it (e.g. using "homes" instead of "holmes"). -- Jalabi99 05:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Uh, it's supposed to be homes, ese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.246.252 (talk) 21:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Deleted?
Why was this page deleted?--69.242.2.252 01:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Holliday?
Does anyone else think the Jennifer Holliday comment in the running gags section should be removed? I just don't understand how the two incidents are related to each other in kind (to qualify as a running gag), and the setup given in this article is too vague to make the nature of the gag, or why it was funny, clear. Can anyone else make sense of this?

Time to leave it alone
I've noticed it's been a long time since there has been a significant revision to this article, and the ones that have been made lately have almost always made the thing worse. Perhaps we should call it a day before people end up recounting every episode in the series to make points that don't need to be made (such as the addition about Geoffrey calling Will by his name in the final episode--does anyone think this maks that paragraph, or this article, better than it was?). All of you need to move on to Married... with Children, an article that actually needs help...

Nick at Nite
Does Nick at Night show all episodes of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air? It seems that they are missing some from their lineup, possibly due to controversial issues. --66.153.178.253 22:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Vivian
I liked the original Vivian better.Not that new fake Vivian.The original one was real and a great actress.Who is better to you?The Original Viv vs. The New Viv.-- Cute 1 4 u 04:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this the right lyric ?
If it is, can we use it on the article? Cheers.


 * To answer the 2nd part of your question--no. Posting entire lyrics of a copyrighted song is a copyvio -- Jwinters | Talk 20:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I have removed the lyrics to the opening song as copyvio. The rest of the user's comments have been left intact -- Jwinters | Talk 18:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Errors that are not errors.
"When Will first goes to Carlton's school, one of the other students tells him that it was an all boys' school, yet in the episode when Carlton accidentally mistakes drugs for vitamin E, they all have dates to the prom. This is explained in one episode in the third season, it is mentioned that Carlton's school has become coeducational."

I'm removing this as the fact that the school does not accept female students is irrelivant to having dates at a dance. I went to an all boys school and was never short of a date because of OTHER SCHOOLS!!. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferdiaob (talk • contribs)

"In the season premiere for season five, there was no conclusion to Will's stay in Philadelphia. After the opening credits, Will is back at home and things return to normal with no reference to the Philadelphia trip."

This is also not true, at the start of Series 5, Will is working in a Cheese Stake shop in Philidelphia, and a network executive kidnaps him, and returns him to Bel-Air. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferdiaob (talk • contribs)

question
How do you know the show the fresh prince of bel air show in other countries and the translations?Shirleybiscuit

Well, people from "other countries" have internet, too, and can edit wikipedia. For example, I am brazilian, and yes, Fresh Prince airs on SBT and is called "Um Maluco no Pedaço" here. But no more from monday to saturday, it's only at Saturdays at the moment. It have to be updated.

Yeah, you tell em person who forgot to sign his talk, love the "other countries" bit too, lol. --Ferdia O&#39;Brien 01:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Jackie
I changed the references of Jackie being wills girlfriend to friend because that never really took off in the series. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ferdiaob (talk • contribs) 16:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

DVD Season 5
When will this be released? --Onionringmaster 23:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)OnionRingMaster--Onionringmaster 23:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The Banks Mansion
Hi Everyone! Is the "Banks" mansion really existing in bel-air? If it is, I'd like to know where! If I remember right, in one episode Carlton is saying, that their house is next to the Spelling Mansion. In an another season Hilary is saying that their adress is 8225, St. Claire's road. Correct me if I'm wrong! Now I've found with Google Earth the Aaron Spelling mansion, but can't find anywhere near by the so called Banks's house. Please, if anyone is so deep into this like me, or is just an all-knowing fan, help me through this! :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.183.108.41 (talk) 01:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Dude... how can I tell you this, but... The Fresh Prince of Bel Air is a TV Show. Im sorry, but its true. The guy, yes, is indeed called Will Smith, but he's an actor. He's actually an Academy Award nominated actor. The house is fake dude, it doesnt exist. It was a set. Hope I didnt hurt your feelings. Lex94 03:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I think what the person was asking is if the mansion shown is real. I would like to know myself what the address to that mansion is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.227.87.214 (talk) 00:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, the house itself exists - a place in the town of Bel-air California. But the inside of course is a tv set. But yes, driving around Bel-air, that house can be seen somewhere. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 14:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thanks guys! (I started this topic, but I hadnt a username back then). Yes, what I meant was if the house itself exists which is shown a couple of times during the episodes. Of course I know the whole inside was a TV set full of props! I even remember Will saying something in an episode, that they ain't got no money for ceiling :D. Anyway It would be nice driving by someday :) Thanks again Mark Toth (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Apache?
Is Sugarhill Gang's "Apache" is listed as a running gag, but has it actually appeared in more than one episode? Everyone remembers the Vegas episode but (aside from the clip show) I don't remember hearing it again. Pumpkingrrl 04:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

There is another episode which contains this song. I don't know the titel of it, but it is the "blooper show" of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. At the end of the episode there is a scene where the whole crew (incuding the people who are working behind the scenes) is together. Then while this song is played Will, Carlton (and Nicky) are doing their famous dance and everybody's having a "party". Before that whole thing Will says something about that for 6 years they always get together before the show starts. Propably that's why that song is listed as a running gag.

Does that really count as a running gag, though? Pumpkingrrl 05:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, because for the viewer it isn't really a so called running gag, beacuse Will refers only once to that in the blooper show, but for the crew, who prepared before every single show by playing that song and having a little party to it, it is.

If that counts as a running gag, then the whole deal with them getting in a circle and joining hands before the show would count as a running gag too, even though it's not articulated on the show in any way. Pumpkingrrl 23:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Assassins?
Can anyone tell me in what episode a game of Assassin was played? Someone posted a reference to it on the Assassin article. RyanTMulligan 02:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I Can't tell you which episode that was, but it's in the 3. season, and Vivian is already pregnant. I think it is at the very end of this season.

Is there a website where I can reference this fact from? I'd like to have a reference for it. RyanTMulligan 20:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

What is that Nintendo Wii reference doing here???? I tried to edit it but it does not show in the edit screen...Strange???

The assasin-game is played in the 11. Episode of the 3. season. The title is "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum"

Will Smith
The funniest guy on the show! Hes awsome! ''Heeey! Heeey!'' 67.189.203.228 00:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

whats with all the gay and molestation accusations with jazz i dont remember any of that

Issues Addressed
There was also an episode about "driving while black." When Carlton and Will get pulled over, but Carlton is in denial about why. They even go to credits with no music.

Summary
I took out the unnecessary recital of the theme song in the summary, but if anyone wants to re-add it in a different spot, I'd be okay with it. Maybe someone could expand on the summary? Hobsdtiger 02:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== Carlton was in denial on that "Driving While Black" episode because Will assumed that he was from a rich family and wouldn't understand racism. Or he wouldn't understand how the cops stereotyped them as far as stealing the car from a rich white man. == —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoomook (talk • contribs) 13:30, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
Towards the bottom of the trivia list it says, "Despite that Will's full first name is William, it is actually Willard." I assume this is supposed to say that his full first name is Willard, rather than William (as would be assumed), but I'd like to make sure on this

Syndicated
When exactly is it aired on TBS? I haven't seen it on this station in a long time, I could be wrong though —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.212.191 (talk) 23:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Running Gag
Isn't a running gag when someone insults will's mom, he tries to fight the person, and he gets beat up? Urena198 17:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

No. A running gag is a form of comedy in which something is made funny by its reoccurrence several times. For example, if Will tries to fight someone multiple times, and he keeps getting beaten up each time, that would be a "running" gag. ~ Hyuugamoto (talk) 01:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised no ones mentioned Will's lusting gaze after women as a running gag --78.86.159.199 (talk) 18:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

when jazz gets tossed out...that is a running gag —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.95.80.253 (talk) 16:36, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Saved By The Bell
Can i add in Pop Culture that carlton makes a reference to saved by the bell in "Hex and the Single Guy".
 * That would not be a notable item to put into the article. This is wikipedia, not the show's website. Even in the Saved by the bell article, that probably isn't notable enough to merit putting it in the article ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 14:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Slight Edit
I slightly edited the Running gags section to state that Carlton's dance was in fact from The Dancing in the Dark Video(He admitted it on a VH1 retrospective show[I'm inclined to say I love the 80s since Courtney Cox's clip from the video was shown as he talked about it)]). In any case, I don't have a link for it so if anyone else has access to him saying it for validation, it would be much appreciated. Raven6248 18:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

All these lists
Does this article really need all of this trivia? Some of this can be salvaged (like the issues covered thing), but most of it needs to be deleted or severely reduced. - A Link to the Past (talk) 08:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

"Running Gags"
Please provide citation for this information. Daedalus969 (talk) 00:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Season 5 + 6
Does anybody know why it takes this long to release the last 2 seasons?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waitingfordresdetox (talk • contribs) 10:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Semi-Protection?
I don't actually have a need to edit this, but I noticed that I can only "View Source" as it were. It says the article is semi-protected. Why can't this article be edited like all the others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.232.251.244 (talk) 10:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * For probably a variety of reasons, this article is subject to a high amount of vandalism, mostly from unregistered users who abuse wikipedia. It's not to say that everyone does it, but editors constantly have to be fixing minor and major vandalisms. Some vandals even cover their tracks so you have to fix it from scratch rather than by just pressing UNDO. If you enjoy wikipedia, and like improving articles in any way, I suggest you should create an account and join the party. Doing so also would not display your IP address to the whole world. Have a good day, and take care ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 14:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Add Trivia Section

 * We should add a trivia section b/c i hav a really good thing to add
 * Try reading WP:TRIV. Anthony Rupert (talk) 02:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Fish out of water
Since the only reference on the disambiguation page relevant to this article is a link to Wiktionary (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fish_out_of_water) I suggest we edit the "fish out of water" link in the first paragraph to make it external, but being unregistered I cannot do this my self. 129.67.53.232 (talk) 18:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. Bill (talk 18:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Birthday
Piranesi2007
 * In the episode "Lucky Charm," Will tells one of Philip's business partners that his birthday is 7/3/73. Seven and three, being the businessman's lucky numbers, help contribute to his hiring of Will as his advisor.  I may have misheard, but I believe that's his correct birthday.  I won't edit the page just yet, however.
 * No, it isn't; actors don't necessarily share the same age as the characters they portray. Anthony Rupert (talk) 02:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe he means the character's birthday, not the actor's. ChocoRokk (talk) 05:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Over enthusiastic
Thank you guys for this wonderful article, however, it needs to be trimmed down. It sounds like its been written by fans of the sitcom, as it includes plenty of non-encyclopedic content. It's obvious most people on Wikipedia attend to article that interest, but its imperative that you remember this is a encyclopaedia and not an essay on Fresh Prince or a magazine article. --78.86.159.199 (talk) 18:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree, I looked at this article a few months ago and then came on it today to see half of it missing. I think things like Cultural Impact are relevant and not un-encyclopaedic, as they are present on countless other articles on Wikipedia. --Mark PEA (talk) 22:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

The Fresh Prince Redirect
Just asking. Why does "The Fresh Prince" redirect to the page for the show? It's Will Smith's stage name when he performs with Jazzy Jeff, so shouldn't it redirect to him? Goten X (talk) 22:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it should redirect to the disambig page which offers both, and have made the change. Someone looking up Fresh Prince is probably MORE likely to be looking up the show in 2008 than looking up Will Smith TheHYPO (talk) 20:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right. Actually Goten X, a while back I was the one, if I remember correctly who re-redirected Fresh Prince to the show from rather the man. For reasons of likelihood as TheHYPO mentioned. Glad it's all squared away now ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 06:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And to add on, actually it was for this reason I did so - from my edit summary ("(it does not make good sense to have "Fresh Prince" redirect to The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and "The Fresh Prince" to redirect to Will Smith. If anything, it should be the other way around) (undo)") ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 06:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Creator
The problem with every single Wikipedia page that talks about this show is that they always get one important thing wrong. As relatives for the CO-creators Susan, and Andy Borowitz, i am offended that it only puts Andy as the creator. Considering Susan Borowitz is legally the Co-Creator, i eould really appreciate it if she was listed as such. This is really important legally. Wagadoogoo (talk) 05:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's really NOT important legally. Are you "relatives for the CO-creators" or just stalking them?  In either case, go screw.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.51 (talk) 13:03, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't have the series on DVD or anything, so I can't check. Wikipedia can only list what is cited, so if the credits for the show list someone else, I don't see why they shouldn't be listed here. I really have no idea about the production stuff. But to respond to your point, I don't think there is anything "legally" important about who wikipedia credits. TheHYPO (talk) 09:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Weren't the creators either fired or quit because they were "too White"? I recall some rumours about that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.64.69.204 (talk) 06:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Internet Relation
I have noticed that this has become a very popular meme on the internet, may we mention this? - Crazyconan (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That would classified under "Popular Culture" which is discouraged. --124.169.131.159 (talk) 09:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

FRESH
This article needs freshening up.80.7.235.36 (talk) 23:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Carlton
Also likes Michael Bolton. This should be added to his bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.224.229 (talk) 09:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

page redirect
Can anyone reason as to why the text "Larry wells" redirects to this page ?

I came across the name Larry Wells at the end of an episode of X-Files ("The Blessing way", season 3, ep. 1). In the ending of the episode you can read:

In Memoriam LARRY WELLS 1946-1995

Kaly J. (talk) 06:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's because that a person by that name was mentioned in the Season 2 pilot. Why this is significant enough to warrant a redirect to this article, however, I don't know. And the person mentioned obviously wasn't the same age as the one you are talking about. I'd remove the redirect if I could, but I don't know how. Tubularbells1993 (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

new link to add to the page
i have found a web page that has alot of the seasons to view online for free. the address is http://www.freshprincetv.com could someone please add this to the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taker2313 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Description of characters
I'm deleting these. There's no need for them to be in the article about the series, since there's a separate characters' description article which is much more complete. --Jmcalil (talk) 00:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Usually there's some sort of a brief summary about characters in the parent article, even if there is a separate characters article. --Bill (talk 17:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Semiprotection review

 * 17:16, 29 December 2007 Wizardman protected The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air ‎ (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

That was well over 18 months ago, so I'm starting a review to see whether semiprotection of this article is still necessary. As well as welcoming comments from regular editors, I've notified Wizardman, the protecting admin. --TS 06:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that protection was back before time limits existed on protection, so it can probably be lifted. Wizardman  00:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

comedy drama
Having a couple of special episodes does not qualify a sitcom to be a comedy-drama. Please fix this.

Running Gags
whatever happened to the running gags part of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.122.128 (talk) 15:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Adding a new link to external links. wanted to add mintwaves.com/freshprince/episodeguide.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.53.231 (talk) 20:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Erm... plot?
Why is there no plot section in this article? I can accept that it was episodic, but there should at least be a description, not in the lead, saying what the show is about, and mentioning continuity arcs and recurring themes. I would do something, but I don't think I've ever watched a full episode, let alone the entire series. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:31, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Backstory Section
This paragraph does not tie together Smith's tax avoision problems with the genesis of the show. Is it arguing that he would not have done the show if he did not need the money for the IRS? That seems dubious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.170.233 (talk) 15:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Sources for Papa's Got a Brand New Excuse episode article

 * https://news.avclub.com/its-the-25th-anniversary-of-the-saddest-fresh-prince-ep-1834660036
 * https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2020/09/11/fresh-prince-bel-air-hug-father-scene/
 * https://uproxx.com/tv/fresh-prince-of-bel-air-father-episode-anniversary/
 * https://uproxx.com/tv/the-true-story-behind-the-saddest-scene-in-the-fresh-prince-of-bel-air-history/
 * https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/features/fresh-prince-bel-air-anniversary-will-smith-karyn-parsons-hillary-banks-sitcom-a9599861.html

Draft:Carlton Banks‎ underway
I noticed that several version of an article on the character, Carlton Banks, have been deleted for being original research and lacking sources. I have initiated a well-referenced draft at Draft:Carlton Banks‎, which I believe will demonstrate the independent notability of the character. BD2412 T 23:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have now revised this sufficiently to move it to Carlton Banks. BD2412  T 06:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Information Issue - Planned Reboot
Can I ask anyone here what relevance the following has in regards to the section about the proposed reboot said to be in discussion by TV networks in America?

"A reunion of the surviving original cast, The Fresh Prince Reunion, aired on HBO Max in November 2020. Among other reminisces, Janet Hubert appeared, also appearing around this time in a joint radio interview with Smith where the two appeared to reconcile. More information and context were offered regarding the situation between Smith and Hubert and her exit when the two met for their conversation. Hubert discussed the turmoil in her personal life, her abusive marriage, and that she had not actually been fired by the show. She was offered what she described as a "bad deal" to return for the fourth season and she turned it down. Will talked about how his youth and learning to deal with his rapidly increasing fame lead him to make decisions during that time that he now regrets and wishes he had made differently."

GUtt01 (talk) 16:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)