Talk:The Good-Morrow

Clarifications needed

 * In both the lead and the "themes" section, the article is contrasting Robert L. Sharp's interpretation with Julia M. Walker's. The sections set up Sharp's interpretation as being "it's a cordiform map (with multiple worlds)," then go on to say that Walker disagrees with Sharp's interpretation...but the description of Walker's interpretation seems to say that her interpretation is "it's a cordiform map (with one world)." So basically these people agree about the poem referencing cordiform maps; where's the "differing in their interpretation of their meaning and what the lines reference"? It seems like they just disagree on a small point of the exact map Donne was visualising, not on what he's referencing or what it means. These sections (the lead section largely copies the text from the Themes section) can use some rewriting to clarify what exactly scholars agree and disagree on.
 * Could you be more specific? It's slightly more nuanced - while both are cordiform, they're different classifications of cordiform map. Ironholds (talk) 21:01, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Then you should describe that nuance. Right now the paragraph is kind of murky on how their interpretations differ, to the point that I as a naive reader was left going "...wait, so they don't disagree at all? Or they think there's different numbers of worlds? or...something?" A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:04, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Try now? Ironholds (talk) 21:16, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, much clearer now. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool; ta. Ironholds (talk) 21:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The lead says, "The lover's musings move from sensual love to a state of spiritual love as he realises that, with spiritual love, the couple are liberated from fear and the need to seek adventure, because their love is enough to fulfil them." This sentence is kind of a mess; I've already re-written it once to try to make a bit more sense, but it needs the loving care of someone who actually knows what it's trying to say. Is it intended to communicate basically "the lover is musing on love. he begins by musing about sensual love, then moves on to musing about spiritual love and blah blah"? Or "the lover is musing about the process his love with his lover has taken, and how initially they had sensual love, but now they have spiritual love"? Or a little bit of both, with "the lover is musing about love. he begins thinking about sensual love, then realizes that he and his love have achieved something better, spiritual love"? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 04:43, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Try now? Ironholds (talk) 21:01, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, better. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:05, 28 July 2011 (UTC)