Talk:The Good Wife/Archive 1

Canadian ratings
The Canadian ratings table is completely unsourced. (The only ref does not work.) If you are adding Canadian viewer data and/or rankings, please provide a source! Thanks. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Location
The show takes place in Chicago, though location is listed a Vancouver. This is believable, but needs a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.205.11.49 (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Although the show takes place in Chicago, "The Good Wife" is housed at Broadway Stages in the industrial hinterlands of Greenpoint in Brooklyn, NYC and as neighbors include the scenic Newtown Creek Sewage Treatment Plant and a scrap metal company. There's a hip coffee shop a few blocks away, but that's as Hollywood as it gets in these parts."Los Angeles Times" Aug 31,2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franfig899 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 7 October 2011‎

Intertitle
Why is the image classified as an intertitle? It certainly isn't one by the definition given in the article intertitle. 18:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.184.100 (talk)

Plot section
I removed some content from the plot section. The content had nothing to do with the plot of the show, and was more of a thematic exploration. This wasn't really the problem, though. My issue is that it was uncited, original research that in a few instances plainly violates WP:NPOV (asserting that "negative consequences" of "pornography" is "realistic" is POV-pushing, for example). I don't see how this content is encyclopedic in any way. That said, I think a "Themes" section or similar could be explored, provided verifiable sourcing is found and provided that no POV is pushed. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ bomb  06:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Potential sources
I've been working on sourcing the crew section and have found a few interesting sources that I couldn't place in the article right now. For future reference / interest:

--Opark 77 (talk) 23:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * LA times articles on the series
 * interview with the creators
 * Variety on Cummings achieving series regular status
 * Seattle Times on the slap in the pilot - only of use if we write a separate article for the pilot
 * USA today Margulies profile
 * metacritic

Suggestions for improvement
These comments are made as someone who's never seen the show and came here to find out about it after seeing a little piece in TV Guide clearly aimed at regular viewers; I'm also a frequent editor of Wikipedia's TV and movie articles.


 * Section on principal and recurring characters: (1) This list should be re-ordered. For instance, Alicia's description references "Will" as if the reader knows who that is, yet he's mentioned far down the character listing, after even the daughter, despite the fact that there's almost nothing to say about her. It seems to me the kids should be saved for last if, as first impressions suggest, they don't have that much screen time in the show, especially the younger child. Moreover, Alicia's husband is obviously an important role to explain, yet he's not even in the main list! Even if he is only a recurring character in terms of screen time or credits, much of what needs to be known about Alicia is in relationship to him, so the reader needs his info toward the top. (2) There seem to be way too many recurring characters listed, especially since so much of the article appears below that section -- awards, production info, etc. -- and any linear reader has to wade through this long list of minor characters before getting info on other aspects.


 * No section on critical and popular reception? Awards do hint, of course, that a show is well received, but the "Reception" section is a fairly standard part of any Wikipedia article on major shows or films. Even single episodes of Lost get a section detailing the public reception of the work.


 * The article has a lone mention of the inspiration in the Eliot Spitzer case, but (a) that's far from the only case the creators and principals have cited (I recall that John Edwards and maybe even Bill Clinton were also inspirations &mdash; was the S.C. governor case before or after the show's creation?), and (b) they've said quite a lot in print and other media about the connections and how they envision using Alicia's story to explore the aspects of the wife's experience of these scandals.

Just some thoughts. I'm aware of "be bold," but I don't know nearly as much about what I'm looking for as the devotees would, so I'm putting these suggestions out there to you. That said, I also agree with the person who complained about the whiff of original research and opinion in the descriptions, etc.; much of it doesn't so much need to be cut as it needs to be sourced. For example, if the portrayal of "negative consequences of pornography" is so "realistic," it's likely some TV writer out there has said so and can be quoted. Lawikitejana (talk) 19:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Series 2
OK - series 2 has started but I am not sure where to pick up the information on it... anyone? --Purple Aubergine (talk) 08:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Season 2 hasn't started yet. The first season isn't even over.  The second season won't be until the fall.  ??? --Logical Fuzz (talk) 11:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

When is it gonna start again?

Peter is recurring character?
but Eli Gold is main character? LeviShel (talk) 03:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Doesn't make much sense, does it? However, I closely watched the credits of the last episode, and Cumming is shown in the credits of the main cast, whereas Noth is credited as a "special guest star" at the end of the cast, including other guest stars. The main cast and the cast listed in the infobox are shown precisely as it appears on the show.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I find it interesting too. In season 2 episode 20, Peter wins the election. But he does not appear even in a single scene in that episode.--78.183.32.73 (talk) 15:44, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Season 3, episode 8; episode name corrected
I corrected the episode title for Good Wife Season 3, Episode 8. According to IMDB, which is more reliable, the name of this episode is "Here Comes Santa". I've even provided a link to the IMDB page.

68.62.28.213 (talk) 22:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism in Recurrent cast?
The following entry in the Recurrent cast section suggests to me that some text was either accidentally removed or intentionally removed in an act of vandalism:

"Chris Butler as Matan Brody: A prosecutor. After Blake confronted Kalinda in "Ham Sandwich" about her one-night stand with Peter, Blake leaves after giving one last interview to Matan."

It seems that there might have been additional material about Brody, and a credit for the actor who plays Blake. Anybody care to repair the damage? Or maybe it's ok the way it is, but somehow it seems awkward that the description of Brody doesn't mention him (Matan) until the final word. John Link (talk) 23:12, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Canterbury's Law
I have seen and love The Good Wife, but I was surprised to recently discover that just a year before the show's premiere, Julianna Margulies was in another show where she played a lawyer that was cancelled after just six episodes. To anyone's knowledge, is there any connection between them other than Margulies? 152.14.245.60 (talk) 17:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Peter Florrick
I don't understand why he isn't a main character? If the kids are main characters, then Peter should be. 75.166.188.142 (talk) 00:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Watch the credits. He's not listed in the main stars but as a guest star (or something like that - forget the actual term).--Bbb23 (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Ad Prices
The average cost of a 30-second spot:
 * season 1
 * season 2
 * season 3
 * season 4: $122,654  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.163.59 (talk) 00:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sexual content
The show's sexual content has been the subject of media coverage and should be referenced. It's been stated (and yes this needs a source) that its the first mainstream network series in the US to depict male-female oral sex, for example. 70.64.40.35 (talk) 13:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Would you mind citing a source?Nemissimo (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Excellent source on the guest stars

 * 76 Guest Stars Of “The Good Wife” Ranked In Order Of Excellence. Nemissimo (talk) 18:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Come on now?
The show is currently referred to as "Broadcast's best drama"[4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.240.3 (talk) 11:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Alicia Florrick
Unsourced, short stub; picture, info, etc. can be transferred there Epicgenius (talk) 00:47, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Reception
This line in the reception section:

TV critic Emily Nussbaum of The New Yorker compared Alicia Florrick, the show's protagonist, to Walter White of Breaking Bad.[58]

Is based on a tweet by Nussbaum which read "Alicia Florrick = Walter White". I think that to say she compared the two based on that one tweet is conjecture and should be removed. There is no article which compares the two, just this tweet. And she is saying they are the same, equal, not comparing the two. If she tweeted "Alicia Florrick > Walter White", would you include this line in the reception section? It is a comparison. How about "Alicia Florrick^2 + i = Walter White"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.167.62.149 (talk) 13:52, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

"Universal acclaim" appears to be a stretch, and indicates bias. True for one season it met the Metacritic "universal acclaim" criteria but presently, (as of 4/15), it rates as "generally favorable". Universal acclaim implies that there are no-negative or even neutral outliers. For this reason it has been tagged as not being written from a neutral point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:0:A982:DFD9:4C45:D5EB:6754:985A (talk) 00:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Reception
The reception section of this article needs to be cleaned up. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 01:07, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Legal Inaccuracy
I was someone would address the utterly ridiculous legal plotlines.

Avocats (talk) 08:08, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Non-free image use
I removed File:Alicia Florrick, The Good Wife Season 5.jpg in this article because the usage violates WP:NFCCP in that a rationale is not provided for this image to be used in this article. This is a claim of 3RR exemption required in WP:3RRNO.--Wcam (talk) 16:15, 2 July 2016 (UTC)