Talk:The Guns of Navarone (film)

Split off film from novel
I split the article and started the film as it'w own separate entry. Will trim the novel article and put a link to this one too. Seaphoto 02:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Music
This section dwells excessively on the derivations from the score and not the score itself.--Silverscreen 16:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:GunsofNavarone.jpg
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Mallory's Nationality
I rm ...and later Miller tells him to "think of England and pull the trigger", so possibly he is English, though with his particular accent, an Anglo-Canadian background would be much more believable. I'd tolerate this poorly enough if there were some credible source for this speculation; without it, no.

For the benefit of those who might find some value in this content, I counter with speculation of my own. Niven's character (Miller) -- indeed, his character in many films -- is flip and veddy British. He is a particular stereotype of the upper class, a graduate of the British "public" school (equivalent to an American prep school). This stereotype is given to carefully casual mannerisms, cleverly saccharine nicknames, and offhandly cynical references. Such a character deliberately satirizes yet another British stereotype, the stodgy chauvinist whose narrowmindedness leads him to complain in the middle of the Sahara that the teapot is not fully boiling. The latter is fully capable of making without thought the most idiotic remarks -- made with only his viewpoint in mind. The chauvinist (or patriot if you prefer) is fond of urging his fellow men to greater effort on behalf "of King and Country" and so forth, entirely without regard to who is being urged. The flip fob intentionally mocks him, in keeping with the prep school code that nothing is important enough to be taken entirely seriously. In this context and given Peck's purely Californian accent, Miller knows quite well that he invokes a meaningless totem to Mallory. It is not an obscure clue to Mallory's nationality; it is a fine and poisoned edge to Miller's resentment.

Note that Miller also says, "Be a pal! Be a father to your men!" Yet I think even the slowest-witted amongst us will not speculate that this is anything but idiom.

For reference, see the black comedy Dr. Strangelove. The mad (and quite American) General Ripper demands that Group Captain Lionel Mandrake -- played by Sellers, in this role quite British and of the same upper-class, public school stamp -- help him manage the ammunition belt for the machine gun which he pulls out of his golf bag. In the name of Her Majesty and the Continental Congress, come here and feed me this belt, boy...The Redcoats are coming! Note the inversion of this particular hallmark of this stereotype. &mdash; Xiong &#29066; talk * 10:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Pulp Fiction
Shouldn't Jules Winfield's reference to the film in Pulp Fiction be noted under the pop culture section? Pphresh (talk) 22:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Absolutely! +1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.130.162.15 (talk) 22:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

George Mallory
Is it likely that Gregory Pecks role is named after George Mallory? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.1.131 (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's very possible that MacLean had Mallory in mind, although Peck's character's first name in the novel is Keith, not George, and he's a New Zealander, not an Englishman. However, without hard evidence to back it up, it's not encyclopaedic. Halmyre (talk) 15:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Gregory Peck's German
As noted in the article, Peck's character speaks poor German. Stilted, non-idiomatic, accented. Not what the viewer is told to expect at all from the character. Varlaam (talk) 05:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Screenwriters
Why are Leigh Brackett and Richard Marquand credited on this page with writing the screenplay? Neither of them had anything to do with it, according to their own pages and IMDb.--Pooneil (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto 2 Cheat
As confirmed by a quick search on Google, naming your GTA 2 character 'navarone' was a cheat to give you unlimited access to all guns in the game. Should this also be included in a popular culture section? Energya (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Seems very incidental. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 17:15, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think game cheats really qualify as encyclopedic information. Mediatech492 (talk) 17:19, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Earliest postings (in 2005–06)
For discussions from June 2005 to December 2006 regarding The Guns of Navarone (film), see Talk:The Guns of Navarone &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 14:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

a comment
"The greatest high adventure ever filmed!" what arrogance, not so "greatest" "high" "ever"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:580:F172:5800:A8A0:F66B:7EC:7AC4 (talk) 18:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Greek language
Excuse me but I am italian and fan of war movies and want ask if someone in Greece or in rest of Europe have translate the scene where Gregory Peck speak in greek language on boat with german naval officer because in no one version exists subtitles of these phrases! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.62.135.212 (talk) 10:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC) No one know the right answer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.62.135.212 (talk) 15:36, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

subtitles for requested scene, .srt format

368 00:29:11,588 --> 00:29:13,799 Lower your sails!

369 00:29:14,003 --> 00:29:16,213 We are coming aboard!

370 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:22,150 ''Τι λέει? Τον καταλαβαίνετε ις?'' [What does he say? Do you understand him?]

371 00:29:24,750 --> 00:29:26,850 Τον καταλαβαίνετε ις? [Do you understand him?]

372 00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,500 ''Με συγχωρείτε. Δεν ξέρω Γερμανικά.'' [I'm sorry. I don't know German.]

373 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,900 Το λέω στα ελληνικά. [Say it in Greek.]

374 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,750 Σταματήστε το καικε αμέσως! [Stop immediately!] Stamatiste to kaiko amesos!

375 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:47,600 ''Το χωλαίνω κομιλέσε. Κατεβάστε τα πανιά.'' [He said to halt. Lower the sails.] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.8.187.15 (talk) 02:09, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Italian dubbing
In italian dubbing the role of Royal Australian Air Force officer Barnsby played by Richard Harris in Italian version is not called a very angry officer because is an Australian that use bad words in his language but a simply english officer very angry for that dangerous mission! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.62.135.212 (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Cast listing in the closing credits does not follow the same billing order as in the opening credits
It may be noted that, in the film's opening credits, 21 cast members are listed. Below is a reproduction of the form in which the cast is depicted:

The on-screen closing credits, however, list names of 22 cast members, with the first 10 listed in the same order as in the opening credits. Then, 12 additional cast members are listed 11th through 22nd. Among those actors, only Cleo Scouloudi retains the same billing, #20, in both the opening and closing. The sole cast member who is listed only in the closing credits is #21 Nicholas Papakonstantinou, while the last credit, #22, lists Christopher Rhodes who is also listed last, at #21, in the opening credits. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 08:40, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Snow?
There is quite a bit of snow in this film. Germans even has white snow uniforms. How likely is this considering this island is supposed to be between Greece and Turkey?


 * I think you are confusing this film with Where Eagles Dare. The only white that I remember is the outfits worn by the men loading the big cannons. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 00:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Nope, I just watched it on Netflix. There is snow in hills. Plus google it and you find "Starting about 1:00:10 into the film, the commandos encounter snow. The operation takes place in the Dodecanese Islands between September & November, 1943. It hardly snows at all in the Dodecanese Islands, let alone in Autumn." Plus see Navarone Island where it says there is snow on the fictional island.
 * It is a movie not a documentary. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a cop out.