Talk:The Hiker (Newman)

We (opinion) don't need
a list and a chart, so I am moving the list here. One of the works listed, Oskosh WI is the other Hiker, so is not on the chart. There is more work to be done, as always.

Statues
The statue has been installed in more than 20 locations. Carptrash (talk) 18:29, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * New-York Historical Society, New York City, 1904
 * Munson-Williams-Proctor Arts Institute, Utica, New York, 1904
 * Washington Park, Staten Island, New York, 1912
 * Bayonne Park, Bayonne, New Jersey, 1912
 * Utica, New York park, 1915
 * Monongahela, Pennsylvania, 1915
 * Tompkinsville Park, Staten Island, New York, 1916, relocated 1925
 * Theodore Roosevelt Plaza, Buffalo, New York, 1920
 * Grove Street Park, Pawtucket, Rhode Island, 1922
 * Greenridge Cemetery, Saratoga Springs, New York, 1923
 * Southbridge, Massachusetts, 1923
 * Wilcox Park, Westerly, Rhode Island, 1924
 * Pittsburgh, 1925
 * Woonsocket, Rhode Island, 1925
 * Riverside Park, Wichita, Kansas, 1926
 * Woodland Park Zoo, Seattle, 1926
 * Niagara Falls, New York, 1928
 * Bristol, Connecticut boasts two statues, the 1929 original and a 1983 copy.
 * Buchanan Park, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 1931
 * Belle Isle, Detroit, 1932
 * Oshkosh, Wisconsin, 1939
 * Ypsilanti, Michigan, 1940


 * I could not find the Washington Park (i.e., Stapleton, NY) statue, nor reference to it outside of the LOC entry. The only mention of one on Staten Island is the Tompkinsville monument. The coordinates for the Seattle monument are best guess. My research identified it as being in the Woodland Park area marked as War Memorial Park, but I could not lay eyes on it with my current resources to verify its actual location. Also note the Lancaster, PA monument, while sculpted by Newman, is a different Hiker. I made a note for it, but will have no objection if you wish to remove it.--KMJKWhite (talk) 19:07, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Some date confusion
We just added that the work was created for a 1907 Expo, but the first two versions are from 1904. Hmmmmm. Carptrash (talk) 18:32, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, so the smaller versions were probably created while he was working on the large version. Carptrash (talk) 18:40, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe 1904 is when he copyrighted his design. Getting the statue approved, getting paid for it, identifying a forge to complete the work, and reworking it from design to full scale would have taken a couple years. It's possible one of those was the original concept sculpture, but not both. Another of those was identified to the LOC by Conner-Rosenkranz in 2008. Quite possible there are many more still out there. I'd recommend dropping the miniatures from the list in favor of only those erected as monuments.--KMJKWhite (talk) 19:00, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with dropping the smaller versions. Or perhaps make a separate chart for them, because who knows how many there might be.  Dozens is what I'd expect.  In any case, let's leave the current chart just for the larger ones. Carptrash (talk) 19:23, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Double entry?
I think that there is a double entry for the North Burial Ground statue, once in 1912 and again in 1915. I am inclined to remove the second, but am not in a hurry. Any thoughts? Carptrash (talk) 16:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The Staten Island one seems to be here twice too. It appears that it gets moved, but (opinion) being the same statue I feel it should only be listed once.  Again, no hurry.  Except getting to the loo. Carptrash (talk) 17:03, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Staten Island IS the same statue. It was moved to Tomkinsville Park when the current Borough Hall was built. SIRIS has 2 entries.
 * The Providence statue has a 1912 date on its base. I think Poyner's research is good on this. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2017 (UTC)