Talk:The Hive (website)

Relationship of Rhodium to The Hive
The history behind this all seems a bit mired, so I'd be really glad if someone could clear this up for me. (Seriously though, I'd pay good money for a good book I could read about The Hive, Rhodium, Hyperreal etc, just to see how they all began and how they inter-link...) What is the relationship of the Rhodium archives (now mirrored at Erowid amongst other places) with the user Rhodium on The Hive — was the archive maintained by the user of the same name, or are they not related? And how do they fit in with The Hive? Many thanks. --henryaj 19:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If memory serves, Rhodium took the site on, but I don't know what led to that. It was certainly distinct (in the server location/funding) at some point. --Morbid-o (talk) 22:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * "Rhodium's Archive" was run by the Hive-user Rhodium, created when the Hive-forum was still young. Rhodium was a normal user with a popular website - where he collected chemistry articles and

references, forum-posts and other information he deemed significant. Some believe he was a chemistry student at this point, noting how he had a more basic understanding of chemistry than the one displayed in later years at The Hive.

Strike created and ran The Hive from 1997 until he got busted: Strike had written two books on drug-synthesis, another on acquiring the needed chemicals and also ran a chemistry supply-house mentioned as a good source on the Hive-forum. In 2001 he was exposed on a Dateline special called "The X Files" and arrested - then-moderator Rhodium became administrator of The Hive. Both sites had been hosted at the Lycaeum art first, but from that point on both The Hive and Rhodium's Archive were hosted in Europe, where many assume that Rhodium lives. From then both sites stayed online until they were finally taken down in 2004 and Rhodium disappeared from public forums.

During this time the number of Hive-users reached several thousand, a russian drug-chemistry forum was included in the Hive forums and both the forum software and the Rhodium site evolved along with the increase in users and information. As an example Rhodium's site increased the amount of links on its main page from about 500 in 2001 to around 1100 in 2004. Many of the new links were scanned books and articles translated and/or typed by Hive-users or Rhodium himself. Also, many new links were posts or entire threads from The Hive that got edited and cleaned-up, by adding references to chemistry literature, fixing or clarifying erroneous/unclear statements or just improving the layout with the help of CSS. The Hive forum was also upgraded; the original board-software was improved with the help of custom patches made by Hive-staff, and features were often implemented after suggestions from users. Notable changes are a very extensive search-engine (TFSE), the ability to "bookmark" threads, enabling moderators to rate posts and a function to both upload pictures and link to them in posts using a distorted URL, for privacy reasons. The forums consisted of many different categories in the end, ranging from beginner chemistry-questions to "serious" chemistry, but also included several categories for off-topic discussions, in addition to the previously mentioned Russian Hyperlab after it lost its hosting and The Hive adopted it.

Your best source for information about this subject is the Dateline documentary and finding similar forums where former bees have found a new home.

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