Talk:The Hunger Games (novel)

Controversial with parents
The article has this sentence: "However, the novel has also been controversial with parents;[46] it ranked in fifth place on the American Library Association's list of frequently challenged books for 2010, with "unsuited to age group" and "violence" being among the reasons cited.[47]" Reference 46 is not useful. In supporting the sentence "controversial with parents" we have one New Hampshire mother who hasn't read the book and is completely ignorant of the plot aside from the fact that some kids kill each other. I contend that the entire sentence would be better supported by reference 47 only. Lara 21:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. We have clear consensus that this novel is not the primary topic of the name compared to other uses. Creating a broad-concept article as a broad-concept article at the base name has been suggested; this will probably be the best way to go moving forward. Cúchullain t/ c 14:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

–The title The Hunger Games could as easily refer to the film, the film series, or the novel series. Charles Essie (talk) 00:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The Hunger Games → The Hunger Games (novel)
 * The Hunger Games (disambiguation) → The Hunger Games
 * Support move per nom.  Gloss •  talk  02:09, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support per nom In ictu oculi (talk) 02:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 06:29, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Twyfan714 (talk) 14:33, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and speedy close before someone starts whining about how the book is the original use of the name and thus is the primary topic per the "long-term significance" nonsense and how of course the original book is the "most important" use. How can a series or (God forbid) a film be more important than a book!!! --B2C 06:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support No clear wp:primarytopic between the novel, the book trilogy, the film, or the movie trilogy. walk victor falktalk 13:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support to make it easier to spot incorrect incoming links.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 13:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Tagged as dabconcept - all titles on the disambiguation page refer to works or installments within a single franchise; this should be an article on the franchise as a whole. There is no ambiguity here. bd2412  T 17:35, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree, we don't seem to a page on the whole franchise, we have one the book series and one on the film series, but not one on the whole franchise. Charles Essie (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Support per nom.HullIntegrity (talk) 18:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
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Battle Royale
A discussion has been started of the need/desirability of including the content of this section in The Hunger Games (about the series) and Suzanne Collins (the author's page) as well as in this article. Please leave any discussion on this subject at Talk:The Hunger Games. Meters (talk) 02:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Content and location of Section of Battle Royale

 * 1) This topic was originally covered in a subsection of the Critical Reception section. The subsection header was removed by User:DHeyward here. Now it has been moved to its own section. Does the material warrant a section? Note that the material currently in this section is no longer exactly what it was.
 * 2) A positive quote on the issue "The Hunger Games has an entirely different set of cultural baggage ... Collins just happened to tap in to the creative collective consciousness, drawing on ideas that have played out many times before, in addition to her intentional reference to Greek mythology." by filmmaker Robert Nishimura on IndiWire's PressPlay has been removed  on the basis that it is a blog. The contributor of that commentary is listed as contributor to the page http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/contributor_bios so he's not just some no-name blogger, or a member of the public commenting on a blog. It seems like a legitimate source to be included to me. Other opinions? Meters (talk) 03:34, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No. We don't have "plagiarism" sections.  And two sentences don't need a section.  It may be notable here in the book article (debatable).  Definitely not acceptable in the article on the author. --DHeyward (talk) 04:04, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a serious issue addressed on the Japaense version of Wikipedia. The only reason it hasn;t exploded is that the Japanese author of "Battle Royal" has graciously decided against pressing charges. This is a huge examp[le of White Privilege in that a White author can simply just claim that she had never heard of or seen Battle Royale, which has a huge following in half the world.  Here is the translation of the Japanese wikipedia entry on this issue:
 * The Hunger Games has been noted for its similarities to Hiroharu Takami 's 1999 novel Battle Royale . In the aforementioned book review, King mentioned the similarities between The Hunger Games and the book and his own novels Battle Runners and Death's Long Walk, stating, ``If you've read them, you've probably read something like this before. "If you've ever ventured into the badlands of television, you'll quickly realize that . " Green also points out that ``almost the same setting can be found in ``Battle Royale .  Collins said, ``I had never heard of the book or the author until I submitted my book.When I heard about it, I asked my editor if I should read it, and he said, ``No, that world is in your head. "You don't need it. Just keep doing what you're doing." Writing in The New York Times, Susan Dominus said, ``The similarities are so striking that it's no wonder that Collins's work has been criticized in the blogosphere as brazen plagiarism.' ' It is entirely possible that the two authors independently came up with the same basic settings . Eric Eisenberg of Cinema Blend cited the differences in story and theme between the two films, writing, ``(The Hunger Games) is not plagiarism, it's just a different use of a similar idea. states . Robert Nishimura says, ``It's a waste of time to criticize ``Battle Royale for plagiarism, because ``The Hunger Games has a completely different cultural context, and also It would also be disrespectful to the myriad of other materials he worked with. Collins simply pulled out ideas he had thought of many times before, added in deliberate references to Greek mythology, and created a creative collection. [  ] Krusader6 (talk) 12:31, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

After some long reflection, I think the Cinemablend.com source (No. 51) is inappropriate and should be deleted from the article. It's one of those "Top 5 reasons that ...." blog "listicles," and I don't think it adds to the journalistic integrity of the article-- in fact, it detracts from it. Thoughts? Gentlejackjones (talk) 16:41, 24 August 2016 (UTC)Gentlejackjones

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Should this be in a the “human sacrifice in fiction” category?Ma nam is geoffrey (talk) 19:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC) Going to edit it.Ma nam is geoffrey (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2020
Change the way genres are listed to "A, B, C" format. GlumDoubled (talk) 08:34, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is against consensus. Wikipedia provides templates which are appropriate for lists of one item per line. Elizium23 (talk) 14:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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