Talk:The Immaculate Collection

REFS

 * The best-selling greatest-hits collection by a female artist (USA) —pag 89 from BB or 85 in PDF—
 * She previously matched the record by Patsy Cline's "Greatest Hits" in 1995 in the USA with the 6 million mark.

--Apoxyomenus (talk) 00:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The most-succesful greatest hits by a solo artist (UK) —fourth general—
 * Best-selling greatest hits collection by a female artist (Australia) —Herald Sun; subscription requires—
 * Best-selling compilation album by a solo artist of all time (worldwide)
 * To The Extreme by Vanilla Ice blocked her from the number one spot in Billboard 200 (Billboard —pag 13 BB; pag 11 in PDF— + 1)
 * Biggest-selling album in the U.K- by a female soloist (Guinness World Record 1999)
 * One of the best-selling albums in Finland by a foreign artist (IFPI)
 * Thank you so much, I'll try to improve this article, let's see haha. If you accidentally find articles discussing the production or promotion, they're very welcomed too :) Bluesatellite (talk) 00:58, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Bluesatellite No problem, i'll do in case I found something.
 * Before its release
 * Dance Rap (pag 23 in PDF) | Cashbox 1990-10-27
 * Billboard (pag 106 in PDF) | 1990-11-03 | Including the first time usage of Q-sound in an album
 * More
 * "Fast Facts" (pag 6) and "Shep Pettibone Sounds Off About QSound (Madonna Remixer Says Process Has Some Limitations) " (pag 56 in PDF)
 * Madonna's fifth multiplatinum album | Billboard 1991-02-16
 * 1990 Staff Choice: The Immaculate Collection and "Justify My Love" Top Albums/Songs of 1990 by Cathie Moore | CMJ New Music Report
 * Ugliest album cover (of the week) | CMJ New Music Report
 * 3.9 million in the UK | But if from Warner Chappell Music (OCC coverage only the 95% of album market)
 * Performance
 * No.1 in Ireland and UK; debuted at number 6 in European Top 100 Albums | Music & Media 1990-12-01
 * No.3 at European Top 100 Albums | Music & Media 1990-12-22 (fourth week)
 * One of the best albums of the 20th century by Rockdelux (found in Jenesaispop)
 * Album re-entered at no.21 at European Top 100 Albums | Music & Media 2000-10-17 (pag 14)
 * Week's highest new entry on the albums charts → Canada (RPM; 1990-11-30)
 * No. 1 position for the sixth straight week → Canada (RPM; 1991-02-23)
 * Hits of the world: No1. at Canadian The Record magazine | Billboard 1991-01-05
 * U.S: When jumped from No.5 to No.3 it was the highest-charting greatest-hits album since "Kenny Rogers' Greatest Hits" reached No. 1 a decade ago | Billboard 1990-12-22
 * 298 weeks in Billboard 200 until 2003-03-25 | Billboard
 * Other
 * Most record sales in Singapore are of international (mainly English) records. Best sellers have included REM's Out of Time, Phil Collins' But Seriously, and Madonna's Immaculate Collection (Business Times, 6 March 1992). Pag 171 in The Struggle over Singapore's Soul: Western Modernization and Asian Culture by Joseph B. Tamney (2017)

--Apoxyomenus (talk) 02:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Marketing the making of Madonna: ANNE PARTON charts the marketing success that is Madonna, whose latest album Immaculate Collection has gone platinum in Hongkong in a single day

--Apoxyomenus (talk) 20:40, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Revert edit
this is the source from Hitlisten where it shows the album attained a peak position of four. The same page explain the last symbol from each chart-album information, where it reads above the page in "IKONFORKLARING" → BEDSTE PLACERING (PEAK). I also think the information about the best-selling greatest hits album by a woman in US, UK and AUS should be reinserted, either in commercial performance or legacy, as its part of the nature/type of the album. Not fancruft, as you wouldn't certainly heard about that from other record, eg. Cheers, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 04:36, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You should update the citation while changing the peak, as we can't assume people to know immediately where it comes. I've re-added the Denmark #4 peak tho, thanks for noticing. As for the best-selling GH claim for those countries, I removed it from the lede simply because it's just a bit too much, since the album itself holds the worldwide record. Also the claim for the US is a out-of-date and kinda questionable since Patsy Cline's Greatest Hits is also a RIAA diamond album. We never clearly know which one sells more among women. Bluesatellite (talk) 01:28, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, I know the responsability of WP:BURDEN. Perhaps because I thought while reviewing the online Hitlisten link, the automatic template should contain it; at the end, I'm wonder how I didn't notice it. With the latter point, I'm sure that if article follows the current "trend" of some articles in having within commercial reception sub-divisions like "North America" and "International/Overseas" this would be added along with other stats in other's eyes :p, but not objections about your argument. Finally, just to let you know I found this comment about album's cover that might be useful: "The albums's colors of blue and gold resonate with some of the colors used in traditional images of Virgin mary" in Simon and Schuster's 2006 book "The Everything Mary Book: The Life And Legacy of the Blessed Mother" by Jenny and John Schroedel. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 01:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have always preferred simple and cohesive article like Featured Article 4 (Beyoncé album) over a gigantic article where every single non-major details are mentioned. This album is without a doubt among the critically greatest releases and best-sellers of ALL time, and IMO we don't need a bloated paragraphs to reassure its "greateness", in my humble opinion. Anyway, you don't have to ask my permission to edit the article. Please help me adding that artwork commentary :)) I would rewrite when necessary, cheers! Bluesatellite (talk) 02:11, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I mostly agree with your point, the implementation of some data's information looks like WP:CHARTTRAJ in many cases. Done with artwork's comment. I didn't add that, as I found it minutes ago and also cuz, you're currently working on that under template "UC". Cheers. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 02:26, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Singles
Shouldn't the re-release of "Holiday" and "Crazy for You" be listed under the Singles section of the article as the re-release of "Oh Father" is listed as a single from Something to Remember? MCMCTT (talk) 17:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * "Holiday" and "Crazy for You" were already released as singles in the UK during its original album era, while "Oh Father" wasn't a single in most countries during its original album release. Per Template:Infobox_album. Bluesatellite (talk) 03:58, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Argentina
The Immaculate Collection debuted directly at number one in Argentina. Vera (talk) 03:48, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Added. Thank you. Bluesatellite (talk) 04:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Photos are all men
Interesting that a page about Madonna's first collection contains no photos of Madonna and two photos of men, one only tangentially even related to the album. I'm not good enough at editing to fix that. But we should fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:6A82:9B80:402:962F:863E:D392 (talk) 11:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

"Holiday" and "Crazy For You" singles
"Holiday" and "Crazy For You" should be listed as singles for this album. Both singles were released in 1991 explicitly to promote the album ("The Immaculate Collection" is indicated at the back of both singles). The guidelines in Template:Infobox album do not apply in this situation.

"For songs that appear on more than one album, list the song as a single only for the album(s) where the single was released as part of the marketing and promotion of that album. Examples: For complex release scenarios where it may not be obvious that a single was released as part of the marketing and promotion of the album on which it appears, seek consensus on the talk page for the album." Theknine2 (talk) 13:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If a song is originally released as a single during the marketing and promotion of an album on which it also appears, and is subsequently included on a compilation album, list the song as a single only for the original album and not for the compilation album. (They were also released as part of the marketing and promotion for The Immaculate Collection)
 * If a song is originally released as an album track only, but is subsequently released as a single to promote the release of a compilation album, include the song as a single only for the compilation album. (They have been released for both the original album and The Immaculate Collection)