Talk:The Joker (Steve Miller Band song)

merge Pompatus into this page?
The details of that page all return to this song, so it seems to me appropriate to merge the two articles. Please let me know if you disagree, I'll put up the appropriate merge tags in a couple of days if no one objects. Roehl Sybing 23:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I would leave as-is - the "pompatus" article clearly does not "all return to this song", instead it explicitly relates this song's use of the term to an earlier work - making the "pompatus" article the larger umbrella of information. Voideater 16:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Maurice
Is the "Maurice" in this song and "Enter Maurice" based on Maurice (novel) by E. M. Forster? The novel was actually first published one year before "Enter Maurice" came out in 1972. After seeing that entry I'm wondering if it was a whole different kind of peach tree he was talking about than I thought. ;) But it would explain some of the "gangster of love" stuff and given the prejudices of the age perhaps sheds some light on the darker tone of Enter Maurice? Wnt (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Male or Female?
Has Steve ever said whether the love interest in the song is male or female? I've seen some people on message boards, like songmeanings.net, who have speculated that this may be a gay love song for a number of reasons, like "Wanna shake your tree", "I'm a smoker/midnight toker", "I'm a sinner" (reference to the common religious taboos on homosexuality), etc, as well as the overall flamboyant tone of the song.

The lyrics never specify whether the singer is talking to a guy or a girl, therefore it could be a guy. If Steve has either confirmed or denied this in an interview, then maybe we could mention it in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.29.155.254 (talk) 17:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting question. It never occurred to me before that the love interest might be anything other than female.  But then, if you were to review the lyrics of a lot of popular love songs you'd probably find quite a few that lack any specific gender reference.  As for including it in the article, in the absence of a statement from Miller or some other reliable source, it is merely fan speculation and as such most likely wouldn't be considered encyclopedic.  --Mwalimu59 (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I seriously doubt that, when it comes to this particular song, he would ever be asked about the love interest. Every interview that I've seen is either a fluff piece ("How much do you love this song you wrote?") or an attack piece ("Why don't you tell us about all the blues musicians you ripped off without crediting them?").  Steve Miller, himself, sang about women.  The original song (by The Clovers) was about a woman.  It would be difficult to imagine singing "I really love your peaches" to a man unless we're getting into "Dude Looks Like a Lady" territory. --  k a i n a w &trade; 05:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Fatboy Slim
I removed the Fatboy slim info box and category at the bottom. I believe this page should be reserved for the Steve Miller Band version and the Fatboy Slim info can go onto the page for their cover of the song. Any disputes go ahead and put them here :) Onsen (talk) 03:01, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The usual practice I've seen on other songs where there have been multiple notable covers of the song is to have only one page for the song and to include an infobox for each version. I don't see a reason to do differently in this case.  --mwalimu59 (talk) 06:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Content
The lines mention that the singer is a "smoker and a toker". Does this reflect any of the band members? AmericanLeMans (talk) 16:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Lineup
Who are the other musicians with Miller on this recording???


 * The bass player was not Lonnie Turner as it is repeated over and over, but Gerald Johnson who has been credited for some of the most catchy and driving bass tunes of the Pointer Sisters, Dave Mason, Greg Allman et al.

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Wolf-whistling
There should be a section on the Wolf-whistling present in the song, and how the song popularized Wolf-whistling for a while. 24.175.241.187 (talk) 17:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

contoversy?
no source cited for why it controversially kept Deelite off the top spot. LumpiSpoerl (talk) 08:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)