Talk:The Lake House (film)

Removed Original Research in Trivia
These two sections of plot summary snuck into the Trivia; while perhaps true they aren't cited to any source, but are written as criticism of the story, making them Original Research:
 * Although Roger Ebert liked the movie, it could be considered to have an idiot plot. Bullock's character evidently never googles Alex's name to see where he wound up, and never looks him up in a phone book. She also does not notice his death records when she pulls his father's death records. She also does not remember the face of the first patient she lost, who died in her arms after being hit by a bus on her first day of work, and coincidentally looked exactly the same as the man she was caught cheating with at a party. Reeve's character goes through an elaborate and doomed-to-fail ruse to return Bullock's book rather than using the mailbox (which can transport large objects, as seen when Bullock's character puts a coffee table book through it), and the whole movie is based on the fact that he runs across the street through downtown Chicago traffic in front of a bus rather than using the crosswalk 50 feet away. Reeves never asks Bullock how he is in the future, which would prompt her to look him up and find out he is dead.
 * The time travel theory is inconsistent. Reeve's actions take effect instantaneously in the future, as demonstrated when he plants the tree in front of Bullock's apartment. Sometimes Bullock remembers when she encountered Reeve's character in the past, such as at the birthday party. Other times she doesn't, as when she remembers to the minute when and where she lost her favorite book, but doesn't remember the face of the man who picked it up and stared at her at the train pulled away.

Even in articles such as this, which revolve around fiction, assertions of both fact and theory should be citeable to a reliable source (i.e. not a fansite or blog).-- LeflymanTalk 01:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Argentine short
Hello Mr/Ms Plange. I was the one that wrote about the Argentine short movie that you deleted. I will try to come up with some "reliable source" mentioning it, but I believe it to be quite obscure. I can tell you that it exists, I watched it in French television somewhere between 1997 and 2001; therefore it may be an uncredited copy of "Il Mare". I just thought it to be interesting, and the plot makes more sense and is more moving than "The Lake House". Meanwhile, please believe me - it exists ;^D Fernando K 03:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

As promised, please see the article below:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127658/plotsummary

The original title is "Líneas de Teléfonos" (Phone Lines), and it is a short movie from 1996 (before "Il Mare"). I hope now you allow me to reinstate my Trivia comment. Fernando K 03:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

This article needs cleanup
A few sections, like "DVD" section, needs to go immediately. DVD entry is way too short, especially with one sentence. And sometimes, sections need some cleanup there. --Gh87 02:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm adding the clean-up tag. Never Mystic (tc) 23:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

"Amit Walia" situation
Go to the history page of an article, and notice "Amit Walia" vandalism there. I don't want to know who, but I want the reasoning figured and specific because a user either is pranking or trying to be serious without knowing the real facts. But any of you can solve this situation better than me because I can't do it alone. --Gh87 00:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In doing a Google search there is nothing to connect Amit Walia to TLH. Perhaps my ill-advised HTML comment has fueled this, I was just getting frustrated with reverting and so added the comment. Perhaps we can take it out now... This might prevent future vandals from getting an idea... --plange 00:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Good idea, at first... but we don't know what to do with our messages to this topic. So maybe you have any further ideas? --Gh87 06:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and removed it, so I guess we can see if this cuts it down or it increases. The talk page will eventually be archived, so this discussion will roll off. --plange 14:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

How can the book be placed in the mailbox? The mailbox is too small for that book given by Sandra to Alex, a book written by Alex's father. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.90.136.26 (talk) 03:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

nothing wrong with Trivia section
I disagree with the tag in the Trivia section - I think the section reads just fine - and think it should be removed. Counter opinions? PaulLev 06:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, we should try to get rid of it altogether and merge any worthwhile pieces into the regular prose of the article. See Avoid trivia sections in articles --plange 14:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Plange and I took the time remove non relevent info within triva and incorporated most triva into the article as best as I could, I hope this is to everyones liking. --Chad 09:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Lakehouse Location
Anyone know where this house is physically located? I noticed all of the filming locations were in Il., so it must be there. --Cngodles 14:20, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

The lake house no longer exists, it was removed after filming.

The house featured in The Lake House was specially built
 * The House featured in The Lake House was built especially for the film on Maple Lake in Illinois, USA. The film-makers were granted the use of the lake for filming on the condition that the lake was left exactly as it was before they arrived. This means the specially built house was knocked down and removed after filming. However, you can still visit the lake of course.


 * Address: Maple Lake, 95th Street and Archer Avenue, Cook County, Illinois, USA

Seeker02421 00:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but is the MAILBOX still there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.235.136 (talk) 07:14, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Reception
Everybody I know (and I mean everybody) at the very least liked this film. This article fails to note that it was a very well received movie (by the public)--Energman 12:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I think a lot of people dislike the idea of the movie because of the time aspect, but I found this movie really interesting. I'm guessing this movie is more popular with the ladies though. AlexFili 14:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Change of name
According to the DVD subtitles (and pronounciation in the movie) Bullock's character's last name is "Forster". In the article it is spelled "Forester" ... this should be changed. --Alex, December 29

Timeline needs expansion
The timeline is crucial to understanding this movie and needs to be expanded. In particular, the glimpse at the train station, the meeting at Kate's birthday party, the placing and retrieving of the book under the floorboards, the placing and retrieving of the box in the attic -- all need to be addded. 128.244.110.203 16:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

5-2-2007 The time line has been vastly expanded and helps to understand the movie. User dbsavajoe

removed unnecessary plot analysis
This was removed as non-encyclopedic plot summary/analysis, contrary to WP:NOT: - LeflymanTalk 01:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ''Alex Wyler's father built the lake house, which Kate rented for a short period. When Alex was 8 years old, he and his father and mother all lived together in the lake house. Alex's brother Henry was born after the Wyler family moved into the lake house.
 * ''Kate provides Alex [living in 2004] with a copy of his father's Life Works, which was not published until 2006.. In this book is a photo of Simon Wyler with his 8 year old son in front of the lake house. The title reads: "Simon Wyler with his son Alex at their lake house project."
 * ''Both Alex and his brother Henry have a very strained relation with their father, Simon Wyler. After being away for 4 years Alex warmly greets his brother Henry, but when Alex and his father catch a glimpse of each other, Simon Wyler just barely acknowledges his son Alex, with a weak wave, and walks away.
 * ''Alex informs his brother, who he hadn't seen in 4 years [in 2004] that he has just bought a house. He refers to this house using the words: "Well, it's a dump. Been abandoned for years". Alex has just bought the lake house that he lived in for a short period of his life. It appears that Henry only has vague memories of ever living in the lake house. When in 2004 Alex informs Henry that he has bought the lake house, Kate has yet to rent and live in this same lake house.

Trivia discussion on where the attic is
I have moved the following text from the article to here. I'm not sure where the attic actually was, but this shouldn't be discussed in the actual article. Moved text follows:


 * http://www.movieweb.com/movies/image_viewer.php?i=galleries/3447/2270/hi/IMD-3829.jpg
 * At the link above can be found a "somewhat dark" professional photo of the lake house. Various size glass enclosures can be seen on the roof of the lake house. It appears as if the box that Alex occasionally searches through during the movie, is in one of these glass enclosures, which are on the roof of the lake house.
 * I made some changes to the above text.

Seeker02421 22:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * [Set the elapsed time of the DVD film to 0:07:03 and note that Alex seems to have glass to his right and left, but it appears there may be no roof, glass or otherwise, above him. This appears to be a nightime scene]
 * [Set Set the elapsed time of the DVD film to 0:08:15 and it appears that there is daylight coming in through a window to Alex's right, and possibly paneling behind him.]
 * Other photos of Alex in the attic ??, indicate that he may be in a green house enclosure, that has been divided in two by a partition. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RevJohn (talk • contribs) 11:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

Photos of open and closed glass roof
Using a hand held remote device, Alex was able to open the large glass enclosure on the roof of the Lake House. The two halves of the large glass enclosure separated horizontally.
 * Professional Photo (26KB) of open glass roof of the Lake House
 * Professional photo (68KB) of closed glass roof of the Lake House
 * Professional photo (247KB) of closed glass roof on the Lake House
 * I added the above section

Seeker02421 22:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

extreme edit
deleted half of the article content. Didn't find anything usefull not already mentioned above in the plot summary. Someone donated a lot of time to write this long cronological order and feel a bit sorry deleting everything of it but see no other way. -- Stan talk 17:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Just for the record, I found the chronological layout you deleted very helpful, so I appreciate your including a link with your note here so that I knew it was there and where to find it. I agree that it's somewhat redundant and probably too elaborate for an encylopedia article, but I'm grateful to its creator all the same. Laura1822 (talk) 22:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Google?
From the production notes:
 * Although the actual lake house was constructed for the film and dismantled after completion, it was photographed by the Google Earth satellite and can presently be seen at the following coordinates 41.71417°N, -87.8865°W. For ease of location, the Lake House is on Maple Lake East (part of Cook County Forest Preserve) and reached by turning off Archer Avenue (171) at 95th Street and taking the turning on the right after Wolf Road and before 104th Avenue. In the Google Earth picture, the production trailers can be seen on the approach road.

Maybe Google has updated its photo, because I can't see the trailers, or a house on Maple Lake. (Also, I don't think Google has its own satellite, yet.) —WWoods (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC) 41.71417°N, -87.8865°W


 * Fifteen years later, I had a look on Google Earth - with this you can go back in time to see archived data. Sure enough, time stamped April 2005, you can see the external set, trailers, etc. Mingebinge2 (talk) 15:22, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Has Anybody Noticed This?
I had just finished reading Jack Finney's "The Love Letter", and I couldn't help but feel like I'd seen a movie with a similiar plot... Contact across time through traditional postage mail? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.112.25.212 (talk) 01:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Time's arrow and other notes
I do not understand the point of some of the links in the section called "notes". There is a link to the Chicago Reader website, presumably with a review, but I get redirected to chicagoreader.com, with no review there. Also there is a link to a "Home page of the widely acclaimed book" on Time's arrow, but no explanation about the connection between this book and the movie, or this article. --194.24.138.4 (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC).

cast
Margaretha as Jennifer Forster --- thats new to me ~ haha --84.130.218.232 (talk) 07:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC) I deleted two fictional names! Hope I`ve done it right ... Greeting from Bavaria; Stefan --84.130.205.15 (talk) 16:51, 29 August 2012 (UTC)