Talk:The Last Emperor

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I have found certain similarities between Pu Yi and his predecessor Emperor Gaungxu (Zai Tian). Young Zai Tian, as described by Dr Headland in his Courtlife in China ... was greatly interested in western sciences, etc.

Added the Plot section as requestedSpinoza1111 13:01, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Puyi's bisexuality
Is there definitive proof of his bisexuality? Plus I thought the movie DID ideed hint at his possible bisexuality. The scene during his birthday party in his teenage years where he played the face guessing game with his eunichs using the silk sheet, had a subtle sexual connotation to it.
 * The book The Puppet Emperor: The Life of Pu Yi, Last Emperor of China by Brian Power discusses Pu Yi's sexuality. The book states that Pu Yi had little sexual interest in his imperial wives and kept a male lover in his court retinue. --Smcg8374 (talk) 03:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I know that there is no way to prove this. But I saw this movie on release day in Santa Barbara. It started late and one of the people came up to the front of the screen and said that they drove the film up from Los Angeles - it had just come off of the plane from China and the plane was delayed that morning. Then the movie started. I have watched this film several times since. The original movie was more than three hours in total length. There are MANY scenes that have been cut from subsequent releases. Two scenes that I recall vividly. One was that he would have intercourse in the garden with his concubines. Another was that he would do sexual play with multiple eunuchs in the court. Given that the original runtime was like 180+ minutes and the current release is 156 minutes, there is a lot left out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mind dragons  (talk • contribs)

Spitting Reference
I edited this article in the Analysis section to remove the reference that spitting on soldiers during the Vietnam era did not occur. Not only was this not related to the topic, evidence that this did occur can be found in the book "Homecoming: When the Soldiers Returned From Vietnam" 1989 by Bob Greene ISBN:0399133860

Plot
Currently this reads: "in a deliberately ironic scene, the last Emperor makes imperial remonstrance to the students, but is so clearly, to the students, an ordinary prole that they do not bother doing more than telling him to "buzz off" (which is Bertolucci's accurate rendition of the way in which Mandarin became significantly more crude in the Mao era)." - this used to be "fuck off" (and so the parenthetical makes more sense), but in the Director's Cut DVD (US version) the person definitely says "buzz off". Also, I have to question the "imperial remonstrance" analysis, the ex-emperor acts as a simple, honest man, not a ponderous or weighty man of power, saying with sincerity that his teacher is a good person.

Original Research
Some of the statements in the analysis section do not have proper backing or sources, etc. Nicholasink 20:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Dowager as anachronism?
The Empress Dowager died in 1908. The article needs to explain how she could have been a character, while this film deals with a character that seems to have been born after the 1949 revolution, or at earliest, after 1945.

Someone explain this paradox.Dogru144 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Because he wasn't, he was born in 1905, and was three when the Empress Dowager died in 1908. read the article.--99.141.187.154 (talk) 13:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Sub Section Title: Historical inaccuracies and omissions
The sub section title, Historical inaccuracies and omissions, gives the impression that the Rape of Nanking -- due to it being the only subject discussed in the section -- is an event without enough evidence to prove that it actually occurred. There is plenty of evidence and from plenty of reliable sources, academic and otherwise. (Plenty of people deny the Holocaust. Try calling the Holocaust B.S. and see how many, or what kind, of friends you make.) I'm renaming the sub Section title to "Historical omissions" in a week unless someone can provide a valid argument that depicting the Rape of Nanking as an event that occurred during the time period this movie's set in is historically inaccurate.Agsftw (talk) 11:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * On the subject of historical accuracy, the current article has no mention about how accurate the original uncut film is. Surely, there was some degree of fictionalisation in the film? Most WP articles about historical films have a section comparing the film's contents with known historical events.--Smcg8374 (talk) 03:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Development details
I can't post this because it's personal testimony, so I'm putting it here as sidelights on the birth of the project.

One rather banale summer's day in 1985, I was wrapping up the documentation of the days activities in Cadbury Schweppes PLC's Treasury Dealing Room when the phone rang. Cadbury's chief cashier had just learned Woolworth, oe of their major sales outlets, had just settled a bill, we had an unexpected £12m in the bank, could I deposit it somewhere? I was't too optimistic, the UK money markets had closed for the day. Then the phone rang again, Hill Samuel were looking for £12m, any price paid. Deal done, super rate, bosses very happy, HS tell me they'll tell me about it later. That turned out to be a year later, an invitation to the preview at BAFTA: the film ran, the guys in front turned round, HS's investment manager and Bertollucci himself, what did I think of it? Babble moment about the obvious wealth of imagery - for which this film is certainly a waypoint reference marker - while I decide. Eight Oscars - because it had been a long while since something better than a Rambo action movie had won anything. It turned out to be nine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.253.135.234 (talk) 12:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

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Expansions
Dear Wiki users,

I have been thinking of expanding the plot and production sections of this article. Does anyone have any issues with this or advice on how to go about doing this? Hayal12 (talk) 16:55, 12 December 2017 (UTC)Hayal12 (talk) 16:54, 12 December 2017 (UTC)Hayal12
 * Sure. Keep the plot under 700 words per WP:FILMPLOT, and when adding production information make sure it's cited to a reliable source. Failure to do those things is likely to get your edits reverted in any case. Sorry if this wasn't quite what you were looking for, but your question was pretty vague to me. Good luck! DonIago (talk) 17:06, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Did Wanrong abort a child from an affair with her lover?
As mentioned in the film? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Why is the film considered Italian?
Admittedly, I am new to Wikipedia and don't know exactly what constitutes a film coming from a certain country in Wikipedian terms, but shouldn't it be considered purely a film from the United Kingdom, as that's where the production studio's are from? Sure the director is Italian, but we don't consider Nomandland Chinese, Rear Window British, and Dune Canadian. FruitChips (talk) 19:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


 * We should be going by what reliable sources say, not by our own analysis. I'd ordinarily go by AFI or BFI, but I had some trouble finding a page for this film at either of those sites when I was checking late last night. I believe there's a site called Lumiere that might also be usable, but I had trouble finding that one as well. I'm not sure what the basis for the existing listing is, so you'd be within your rights to tag it for needing a source, or even go as far as removing what's there, though I think the latter option would be overreaching right now. DonIago (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I found an article on the subject from BFI, stating it is not only a British and Italian film, but also from China and France, which I'll promptly add to the article. FruitChips (talk) 15:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)