Talk:The Last Time (Taylor Swift song)/GA1

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Reviewer: Sebbirrrr (talk · contribs) 21:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Picking this up for a review!

Infobox and lead

 * Remove the short description, start date and duration templates as they're all redundant
 * Per the guide at Infobox song using the start date template is desirable; I believe the template also creates consistent data on Wikidata and Wikipedia of other languages. But I do believe that Duration is redundant. Ippantekina (talk) 02:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Startdate is fine to use then. The short description one however is not needed as it is generated by the infobox. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ippantekina (talk) 02:13, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Don't think "of Snow Patrol" is necessary
 * It's the official credit printed on the CD's notes. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * "taken from Swift's" → "taken from the former's" to avoid repetition as the next sentence begins with Swift


 * "lattermost" → "latter"
 * "latter" is used for two objects so "lattermost" is preferable imo. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Fine. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * "Aiming to experiment with..." → this sentence is quite long, maybe try to split it?


 * For consistency, you should either have Nashville or Nashville, Tennessee here and in the body
 * "the refrain" → "the chorus"
 * May I ask why? Refrain is fine imo. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I just think chorus is more commonly used than refrain but it's not a big deal. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * "In the lyrics" → "Lyrically"


 * Link music critics to Music journalism instead
 * I'm not sure; I adhered to WP:NOTBROKEN that we do not fix redirect links in certain cases. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Background and release

 * See above for Nashville


 * ""The Last Time" is track number 10..." → not sure if this is necessary as it seems quite irrelevant


 * Isn't November 11 the release date? Ref 10 just lists several singles while ref 11 gives an exact date
 * If it was released on the 11th then it wouldn't make much sense that the single charted on the UK chart dated the 10th... either way, I reworded it a bit.
 * That's better, but shouldn't the release date in infobox be changed to November 2013 then as that's not an exact date? Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ippantekina (talk) 02:14, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Neither source states that Big Machine released it as a single


 * The ref doesn't state that they performed the song on The X-Factor


 * Are there more live performances of the song?
 * No, to the best of my knowledge. Ippantekina (talk) 03:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Just wondering if they needed their own section with the music video, but that's fine. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Composition and lyrics

 * "it is an alternative rock, following" → a word is missing here


 * "refrain" → "chorus"
 * Ditto. Ippantekina (talk) 03:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * See above. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Critical reception

 * Rename it to "Critical reception and commercial performance" and insert the commercial performance paragraph as it's quite short
 * There are three paragraphs in the Critical reception section now, so I don't see it as a great idea. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Understandable. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * There's a lot of repetition of "[reviewer] of [publication]" and "[reviewer] from [publication]" please fix it
 * Better now, although there still is little repetition for how Stewart's and Clayton-Lea's reviews are introduced. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ippantekina (talk) 02:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ippantekina (talk) 02:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


 * "and vocals:" → "and vocals, stating:"


 * Link Taste of Country to Townsquare Media
 * Ditto per WP:NOTBROKEN. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You still need to link Taste of Country though. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ippantekina (talk) 02:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


 * For Clayton-Lea's review, I think you should specify that both this song and "Everything Has Changed" were deemed "desperate attempts"

Commercial performance

 * See above
 * "After Red was released" → "Upon Red release"


 * "After its UK single release" → WP:OR as it's not explicitly given by the source


 * "for the week of November 10–16, 2013." → "for the week of November 10, 2013."


 * No need to mention the peak positions in Ireland and Scotland, saying they charted in the top 20 is good enough
 * ❌ Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ now, Ippantekina (talk) 02:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Personnel

 * Tidal ref is dead, can it be replaced with the album's liner notes?

✅ Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Charts

 * "2012–13" → "2012–2013" per MOS:DATERANGE

✅ Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

"The Last Time (Taylor's Version)"

 * Remove duration and start date templates
 * "under Republic Records imprint" → don't think "imprint" is necessary


 * "on November 11, 2012" → "on November 11, 2021"


 * Move the refs for the peak positions at the end of the sentence

✅ Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Personnel

 * The div col templates aren't needed as less than 20 people contributed to the song

✅ Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Charts

 * Isn't it possible to use Template:Singlechart for Canada?
 * I added it manually to re-use the Canadian chart for the original version as well. If we use single chart then we will have two duplicate refs, which I don't favor. Ippantekina (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Got it! Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

✅ Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Outcome
for seven days until all issues are fixed! Sebbirrrr (talk) 22:20, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have responded to your comments above :) Ippantekina (talk) 03:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Good job! I've left more comments to some of your replies. Sebbirrrr (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your patience. I believe all are addressed now, Ippantekina (talk) 02:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Everything has been addressed! If you have the time, I would really appreciate it if you could take a look at any of my current GANs. Sebbirrrr (talk) 09:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)