Talk:The Letter Black

Band's website as source
The content of this URL http://www.todayschristianmusic.com/artists/the-letter-black/biography/ appears to be a copy of the content here http://theletterblack.com/bio/ Is it an acceptable source? Questionable source? I'm still new to contributing to Wikipedia. I look forward to feedback from experienced contributors. Dogscatsbirds (talk) 16:18, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No author at todayschristianmusic.com and so it would fail WP:RS. Depending what you wanted to reference, it would be OK to use it as a source for some things. See WP:PRIMARY for more details. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok. I asked because that source is used in the article. Dogscatsbirds (talk) 08:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Add TLB
I'm wondering wether it should be added, that they're sometimes referred to as TLB. Also link at TLB? Greenbigfrog (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's an itialism, so no. Walter Görlitz (talk)
 * FFAK is mentioned though on the Fit for a King (band) page. Greenbigfrog (talk) 19:49, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It shouldn't be. Be WP:BOLD and remove these anytime you see them.
 * But that's a different question, you were asking about a disambiguation page. Unless the band is only called that (as was the case in the late 80s with Daniel Amos) and can be reliably sourced, initialisms should not be included. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry. You asked about both the DAB and in the infobox. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:15, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't really make out what you're trying to say. I think I'm having trouble with the language barrier... Greenbigfrog (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Two issues: 1) are they officially known by the initialism? Is it a term they use in marketing material? Is it on their albums? Or, is it just how fans refer to them as a short-form of their name? My example above of Daniel Amos is exactly that. In the 70s, they used their full name. By the early 80s, they were officially "DA". By the 90s, they had returned to their full name which is how they continue today. There are ads, releases and other material that can support the claim. I do not think that is the case with this band or Fit for a King. 2) Are there other reliable sources that routinely use only the initialism for the band? Is the initialism attested to by publications in the "The Letter Black, also known as TLB" case? If either of these case hold, then by all means, we should discuss that in the article (as you can see was done in the Daniel Amos article) and then we can include it in the article. Otherwise, it's just a common thing to use initials to refer to a band, since full terms are so cumbersome to spell-out each time. Theologians to so with many terms, once the term is established. Scientists use the letters of the periodic table of the elements to the same effect. Psychologists, and many other other professionals use initials to stand-for a subject, but we only mention them in passing, with reliable sources. They do not become aliases, but they are short forms of the subject's name. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:23, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks. I now understand what you were trying to explain Greenbigfrog (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

The letter black
Adam DeFrank was the letter black first drummer and left the band in 2008 the band hired touring drummer named Keith Alsamo in 2008 and in early 2009 the band hired touring rhythm guitarist Terry Johnson and his was in the music video for hanging by a thread but 2A00:23C5:4523:DD01:C04B:1FB8:8E96:9003 (talk) 14:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)