Talk:The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

MobyDick
I agree with the previous author who brought up Moby dick. There are many references. The red school of fish are like the birds that follow Moby Dick. Ned is a son who dies in the course of the journey. The Reporter is Starbuck. DeFoe is Flask. Its a voyage for revenge against a fish for god's sake!

why will the distributor section not work?--El Slameron 00:42, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC) more editing is definitely needed
 * It wasn't working because the previous line did not end with a | character. Went ahead and fixed that. --67.36.24.175 03:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

seahorse
i cant remember the names of the Klaus's nephew (if he is his nephew) or the species of seahorse at the beginning of the film. anyone who can please edit the caption of the new photo in the trivia section. --El Slameron 23:38, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a rainbow ponyfish.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * His nephew's name is Werner. psimionides — Preceding undated comment added 14:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

No critical review
There`s no critical review of this film. So this article is crearly POV. I will nor write my own POV as i went searching the Wikipedia when i could not believe such great actors acting in a film i could not ¿Understand?.

- What are you saying? --69.84.100.212 23:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Rebel Rebel...
Is actually a song from the album Diamond Dogs, not Ziggy Stardust nor Hunky Dory as explained by the original author. Hate to be nit-picky.

Song title
I made a small change by correcting the name of the Sigur Rós song from Stralfur to Starálfur.

Moby Dick
Umm, I'm surprised there is no mention of the story line similarities to Melville's novel. If no one minds, by replying to this post, I'll add it. I'll check back in a couple of weeks.

Redundant Link
I removed the link on the name "Steve Zissou" as it just linked back to the very same article. --Phl3djo 16:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Trivia Section: utterly out of control
The trivia section in this article is longer than the article itself. I will be rewriting (read: removing) it shortly. If there's anything there you want to save, I suggest you rewrite it in encyclopedic form, in paragraphs of text rather than bullets. Soon. Nandesuka 21:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think rather than getting rid of it it should just be tapered down to what matters. I got rid of a bunch of trivial stuff, like the names of characters and such. Ww.ellis 00:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've made an attempt to organize the trivia section as it existed upon my arrival. This is what we have to deal with:
 * "The scene during the credits... inspired by the film The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai...." I moved to the existing Film references section. It seems a particularly bizarre reference, and a description of the scene to which it refers would be helpful.
 * I created a Real-world references section for trivia on references within the film to the outside world, which currently includes the Coppola family reference and three references to the names of real-world people.
 * The remaining trivia can be subdivided as follows: two "used in the film" bits (the ship and the orca); one World Records-style bit of trivia (the shark puppet's size); an explanation of Hydrogen Psychosis, which seems to be somewhat important to the article (see further down this talk page); and two references from the real world to the movie.
 * I did not add or significantly edit any of these points, since there seems to be so much venom around towards the worth of trivia points that I'm afraid they may be deleted any way. -AndromedaRoach 06:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Relevant?
For some reason, _all_ the wild animals in the movie are computer-generated. I can think of several different motives for this to have been made so, but it strikes me as relevant, and not trivial.

All the wild animals are ficticious species. Anderson obviously wanted this to have a deliberately unrealistic feel to it. RossyG 17:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC) 17:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * He mentions this in the comments on the DVD -- 201.78.233.162 14:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The man of war and orca are not fictional species. There are many actual animals in the movie. Although i suppose the orca wasn't wild —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.60.163 (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

hydrogen psychosis
the page Hydrogen psychosis redirects here, but there is no explaination on this page of the term. according to a google search of define:Hydrogen Psychosis, there used to be a servicable definition on the Hydrogen psychosis page. what was the reason for this redirect?
 * "Hydrogen psychosis" is a condition invented by Baumbach and Anderson for this movie. There was an article on it, but it was just a very short stub.  Hence the redirect, I'm guessing.Bjones 04:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * From the history of the old 'hydrogen psychosis' page I've added a shortened definition of it to the trivia section. I'm not entirely sure this is appropriate, but I also feel there needs to be some reference to it if the original article is a redirect. 24.14.187.193 21:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The article no longer includes any explanation of Hydrogen psychosis. I've copied the text here in case anyone wants to include it again, not sure how best to fit it into the article. -- Horkana (talk) 00:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hydrogen psychosis is a fictional ailment acquired by SCUBA divers in the Wes Anderson film The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, which is also referred to as "Crazy Eye". It is based on the very real health risk of nitrogen narcosis, caused by the effects of relatively fast, relatively great changes in external pressure on the human body.
 * Just to be a pedant, it's caused by nitrogen being breathed under high pressure. You may be thinking of the bends (decompression sickness) caused when a rapid drop in pressure causes gases expand in the blood and collect at the joints. Nitrogen narcosis occurs even during very slow descents 86.153.240.61 (talk) 00:29, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

That one song
Whats the song played during the end of the film, its in the scene with the Jaguar shark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerath13 (talk • contribs)
 * It is Starálfur from Sigur Rós album Ágætis byrjun. --18 hours 23:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Lifeaquaticposter.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Life aquatic seahorse.jpg
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Winslett-Richardson
Is there any documented evidence of the character's surname coming from the two actresses? There's no apparent connection between these actresses except that they're all British. Explain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.140.155 (talk) 23:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Guns not Glocks
The filming details are glaringly incorrect to anyone with more than a basic knowledge of firearms. Steve uses a Glock to threaten Jane, and he may have holstered it a few times, but the crew's pistols in the firefight scenes appear to be Beretta 92 models. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.3.40 (talk) 00:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Abusive Tagging?
Abusive tagging, the term abusive seems to imply bad faith and where are the sources? Also, the Trivia tags were deleted, thats against Wiki policy I believe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 13:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There, if any of that stuff is true, it can't be much harder to find sources for it than it is to argue with me, and despite not actually being called Trivia, the various "References" sections are displaying Trivia information which is inappropriate. At least I'm not just deleted all of the unsourced original research material :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Real-world references
I removed the following and bring it here for discussion:


 * The scene at the end of the movie with Steve walking the red carpet with Klaus's nephew on his shoulders was inspired by Francis Ford Coppola walking with daughter Sofia on his shoulders at the Cannes Film Festival in the late 1970s. The scene is the same down to the white knee socks and black shoes Sofia wore.
 * "Zissou" was the nickname of French photographer Jacques Henri Lartigue's older brother. The portrait of Lord Mandrake, Zissou's mentor, is based on a famous photograph of Lartigue, and the photographer (who died in 1986) is even credited as playing the part in the end credits. Wes Anderson also referenced the photographer's work in Rushmore.
 * Although Anderson had made up the main character's unlikely name, it was eventually learned that there is a real Steve Zissou, a trial lawyer in New York. After being contacted by the film's production company, Zissou granted permission for his name to be used in the film, and he is listed in the film's credits.
 * The name of Zissou's research ship was the Belafonte. The name is a parody of Jacques-Yves Cousteau's ship the RV Calypso. Harry Belafonte is a famous singer of Calypso music.
 * Near the end of 2005, Mikhail Matz, a professor of marine biology at the University of Florida, witnessed and confirmed the fluorescence of the Chain Catshark making it very similar to the fictional "Jaguar Shark" of the movie.
 * The character of Zissou's producer, Oseary Drakoulias, is named after two prominent music executives, Guy Oseary and George Drakoulias.

None of this is referenced, and it should not be restored until it is sourced. ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive' 06:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Film references
I removed the following from the article because it is completely unreferenced:


 * At one point Steve Zissou and Klaus Daimler are standing outside Jane Winslett-Richardson's cabin door. Steve says "Not this one, Klaus", a little homage to the character of Jules in the Truffaut film Jules et Jim. Jules and Jim have been happily sharing their girlfriends, but when Catherine comes onto the scene, Jules is smitten.
 * There is a scene from the documentary in which Bill Murray, Owen Wilson and Cate Blanchett are arranged in a row and are pointing forward, looking straight ahead. This is a reference to an earlier Anderson film, Bottle Rocket, where characters Dignan, Anthony and Bob are arranged as such for the cover. The shot was also recreated using the three main characters in Anderson's film The Darjeeling Limited.
 * Both scenes involving aerial shots of character's feet (in the Hot Air Balloon as well as the shot before the helicopter crashes) are homages to Fellini's 8½.
 * The scene during the credits, in which the characters walk along a pier, was inspired by the film The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, which also featured Jeff Goldblum. When the characters board the ship, there is a man wearing a pilot's uniform and smoking a pipe at the top most point of the ship, before the rest of the crew have boarded. This is Ned reappearing for a "curtain call" (per the director's commentary), similar to how a deceased character appears at the end of the Buckaroo Banzai credits.
 * When Steve, Ned and Bill (the bond company stooge) are in the elevator leaving Oseary's office, Bill says "I'm also a human being" — possibly a quote from Victor Lazlo in Casablanca.
 * In the scene where the whole team has descended using the mini submarine to meet the jaguar shark, the puppet-like animation of the submarine is a possible reference to the Stingray television series.
 * The last scene of the movie is a tribute to Satyajit Ray's Apur Sansar.

As no sources are provided, all of this amounts to original research, with editors making their own determinations of Anderson's influences. This should not be restored unless it is sourced. ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive' 17:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Literary inspiration
The "literary inspiration" subsection is titled incorrectly. What is offered there are suppositions from two different critics about similarities between this film and a novel, on the one hand, and another film, on the other. A section about "literary inspiration," especially as a subsection of the plot, would offer information about works of literature or film that, by his own admission, inspired Anderson in the making of this film. The information in this section, as it currently exists, should be moved to the critical reception section. ---  RepublicanJacobite  TheFortyFive 03:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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