Talk:The Lord's Supper

I have tried to add some content to turn this stub into an article. IMO, it still needs a lot of work. Rlvaughn 16:48, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * Rlvaughn, such a strong identification shouldn't be made between this terminology and the Zwinglian position. Protestant groups tend to use this term, including Lutherans and calvinistic Reformed churches - which are not Zwinglian.  Mkmcconn

I was trying to work with the topic as already started, but any suggestions or corrections are welcomed. Maybe a complete makeover would be in order, or maybe this material ought to just be added to the communion article. Though I can't speak practically for the usage among various Protestant bodies, I can speak for many "believers church" traditions in that it is not so much the names we use as the names we do not use - sacrament, eucharist. Rlvaughn 23:11, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * Mkmcconn, I added the following statement - Nevertheless, churches holding other views, such as Lutherans and Reformed churches, also use the terminology - to deflect some of that problem and criticism. - Rlvaughn 22:13, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Someone deleted this article without comment, so I have restored it. - Rlvaughn 03:23, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Consecration
Some churches, such as the Disciples of Christ-Churches of Christ allow lay consecration of the elements.

That's utterly, utterly wrong, at least for the Churches of Christ. We don't say the elements are "consecrated," and in the Church of Christ we do not have a clergy/laity distinction.

Maybe instead this stub section should say what consecration is (I honestly have no idea ... I thought that was something only practitioners of Mass/Eucharist believed) and then go on to say that some churches do not practice it.

In the Churches of Christ, the Lord's Supper is a simple repetition of what Jesus did in the Bible: pray thanking God for the bread and Christ's body which it represents, distribute the bread and eat it, pray thanking God for the cup and Christ's blood which it represents, distribute the fruit of the vine and drink it. A few introductory words or a Scripture reading usually occur at the beginning. There's nothing in the world called consecration. Any Christian man may be asked to lead the prayers, and this will almost always not be the minister or the elders, simply because they have so many other duties. 199.176.87.2 13:46, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Merge
This page needs to be merged with Eucharist. --JW1805 17:46, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Maybe so, but it's important to preserve the differing points of view. My religious tradition never even uses the term "Eucharist." Jdavidb 20:14, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, but that should be clearly explained in the Eucharist page. On other subjects that are called different names by different people, the Wikipedia community just has to decide what the name of the article should be (like Gasoline/Petrol).  In this case, the concept of "eating bread and wine in church" is located at Eucharist (actually, I would rather see it at Communion, which is a disamb page.)  The Lord's Supper page just seems to be all alone, when it should be on the other page.--JW1805 21:09, 30 July 2005 (UTC)