Talk:The Man with the Golden Gun (novel)

Movie Poster + Infobox
I was hoping to start putting the official movie posters on all the James Bond film articles. I thought I would start here. If anyone doesn't think the design on the article currently is ok, I'm open to making it look better or adding certain information or even removing some info. K1Bond007 02:51, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * I thought I'd mention this here instead of sending you a PM. The box looks good, but I don't think you need to have the title repeated at the top of it. Maybe "Movie information" or something like that to differentiate it from the book, or maybe just leave the title off it. 23skidoo 06:10, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Good point, I'll get around to taking it off soon - or you can. The infobox was actually the design of this project: WikiProject Movies. I just changed some of the information (Series -> Preceeded/Followed by) to make it fit Bond more. K1Bond007 07:35, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)


 * Is there a book version of this info box? You'll note I added preceeded/followed boxes for all the novels. It might work a bit better to have that information in a box (original publisher, date published, etc.) 23skidoo 08:46, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Kinda. They've yet to set a standard, but they have a current discussion going. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels. I think for Bond we can use one, but modify it. K1Bond007 16:01, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps we should just have the infobox centered in the section on the book and the picture of the book cover to the right of the book section? This way it's not so big. K1Bond007 17:39, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Works for me, though I wouldn't bother with the ISBN number as Fleming's books were published before that system went into effect (and I have no idea where to look for such information for recent issues). That said when the box is used for the Gardner and Benson novels (I eventually plan to do articles on all of them), the ISBN number would be more current. One thing that could be included in the box is UK and US hardcover and paperback publication dates, as there is sometimes a wide discrepency (especially with Spy Who Loved Me which didn't see a UK paperback release until 5 years after the US did). 23skidoo 19:45, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Something like this? Some info isn't right, I just made it up to have something there for the example. K1Bond007 22:03, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you got it, though the UK edition should be listed first since these are British books. 23skidoo 22:48, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Split
I see someone put the tag on the article but it's not discussed here. I agree the film section should be split off onto it's own wiki article. That's the standard around here, ie- The Godfather. --TheTruthiness 17:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Most of the discussion on this is being centralized at Thunderball where there is a consensus to split. K1Bond007 17:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Article was split on August 1, 2006. K1Bond007 06:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Opening sentence
"'The Man with the Golden Gun is the thirteenth (counting the short story collection For Your Eyes Only) and final James Bond novel'"

This line is confusing. Golden Gun is the thirteenth book, but it's only the twelfth novel. You can't count FYEO here because 1. It's not a novel, and 2. You'd then have to count O&TLD therefore confusing the point even further about this being the final Fleming Bond novel. So either we go back and re-number every novel post FYEO or we change the word novel to book in all articles post FYEO with special mention here that this is the final 'novel'. The latter is probably the better idea. But regardless this sentence cannot remain. K1Bond007 00:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

GA on Hold
I have placed this article on hold because I feel these issues need to be addressed:


 * There needs to be a section titled critical reception or something similar to show what critics felt about the book. This is needed to fulfill the broadness criterion.


 * ✅ Corrected one section so as to include all of it. Vikrant Phadkay 15:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Besides this the article meets all the other points of the Good Article criteria.  T Rex  | talk  14:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Passed as issues were met. Congratulations.  T Rex  | talk  16:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Ghost(re)written?
Although I haven't seen anything on this point on Wikipedia itself, there have been various claims over the years that the novel was "completed" (i.e., the first draft rewritten) by one or more unseen hands. I realize that this is a pretty radical thing to claim and will not repeat those sources here, but does anyone in Wikipedialand have any reputable sources for or against such claims? I will confess candidly that one of the things that makes me feel tere is at least some ground for this is the obvious "rehashing" of plot elements of other James Bonds novels in the story:

-- the holding of a meeting with representatives of various crime syndicates, one of whom does not agree with the plan of the main villain and as a result is immediately liquidated (Goldfinger)

-- the "Western" affectations, including the construction of an "Old West Railroad", by the main villain (Diamonds are Forever)

I'm sure other such obvious parallels can be found. Partnerfrance (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * 1. In future, please post new threads at the bottom of the page, rather than part way through.
 * 2. Try reading the article: the "Background" section covers the myth of the "re-writing".
 * - SchroCat (talk) 16:31, 15 July 2014 (UTC)