Talk:The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (novel)

Haruhi dance
Should there be mention of the Haruhi dance craze (and Kyoto Animation's 1 minute and 3 minute dance versions...)? 132.205.44.134 22:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably not. In relation to the work as a whole, it's rather trivial.--SeizureDog 23:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a real world manifestation of the popularity of the TV anime. You don't really see stuff like this for any anime. 132.205.44.134 01:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The Evangelion opening for Kodocha? --Wirbelwind ヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * We already mentioned about the ED dance in the list of Haruhi CD's that were produced. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The ED dance is related to the TV show, and not the CDs. 132.205.44.134 23:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's relevant as per this link: http://animenarutard.blogspot.com/2007/06/melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya.html
 * There has been a fan versions, public street dances and even a megaman version??. Megaman, that has to be worth something ;) No but seriously I found this interesting, as was said above, "It's a real world manifestation of the popularity of the TV anime. You don't really see stuff like this for any anime." Id agree with that. --Evolve2k 12:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It's irrelevant now. This is a page about the book. It'd be more relevant in the anime section. We just changed around the entire pages about a month ago.Sbloemeke 22:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposed move
Since this article's scope is strickly under The Melancholy, i.e. the first novel in the series and its many adaptations, I propose that elements of the article that do not strickly pertain to The Melancholy be moved to Haruhi Suzumiya (light novels) where the information pertains to all the novels, and not just the first one. Sections that would apply to this would be the SOS Brigade and Affiliations.-- 十  八  00:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've always thought that the organization of this article was a bit confused (and confusing). I was under the impression that this article was primarily about the anime and the novel of the same name, while the novels in general were in their own article already.... Mekryd 13:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The anime covers book 1 and briefly touches up on Books 2 and 3. KyuuA4 07:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The anime covers all of volume one as well as three short stories from volume three(Boredom, Mysterique Sign, Lone Island Syndrome), one short story from volume five(The Day of Sagittarius), and two short stories from volume six(Live A Live, Asahina Mikuru's Adventure). The anime doesn't directly cover any of volume two. Just to make things clear.GreatGlistener 01:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * In the Light Novel page, there's actually discussion about merging that article with this one. And as far as Book 1's content... um yea.  They're rather mixed into this article, aren't they?  I was proposing using this article as the main article to the Haruhi series - both anime and light novel.  To be included are the "Who's who", descriptions character groups involved (like the Agency), Settings, media information (games, music, etc.), and fan reception.  As for Plot information, might as well bring that stuff over to the novels. KyuuA4 08:09, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, and oddly enough. We're generally stuck with the standardized naming system regarding anime, huh?  I had a short consideration for renaming this article to Haruhi Suzumiya series.  I doubt that would work though. KyuuA4 08:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Crazy long intro
Okay, this has been getting to me for a while, but I sort of forgot about it until looking at it again recently. The article's introduction is, as the topic implies, crazy long. Most of it is repeating information that is given later in specific sections, and seems to go into too much detail to be considered an overview (I'm looking at the second and third paragraphs, here. And, really, anything after the first paragraph). If this stuff really needs to be in the intro, I could shorten it into one or two paragraphs... Mekryd 13:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Isn't this the exact sort of thing WP:INTRO encourages? --Gwern (contribs) 17:07 7 May 2007 (GMT)


 * You seem to have linked the introduction to Wikipedia, not a policy page. Or something.  I'm not quite sure.  Either way, did you mean that the page encouraged long intros or what I was thinking of doing? Mekryd 20:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe Gwern meant to link WP:LEAD. Either way, this is classified as a large article and has over 30,000 characters, so the lead should be 3-4 paragraphs in length. It is currently five, but if you want to shorten it down to three while avoiding redundancy then by all means.-- 十  八  23:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I meant LEAD. I'm a little surprised that INTRO didn't link there, though. --Gwern (contribs) 23:57 7 May 2007 (GMT)

Wikiproject?
I made a proposal to make Haruhi into a wikiproject at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Haruhi_Suzumiya If you think you would be interested in it, or if you think it could be a good idea, please sign up. I'm just trying to get an early estimate to see if it stands a chance. (Just FYI, I put this notice in the main page and this one, the most popular ones)Sbloemeke 22:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think a project would be a good idea...but you typo'd Suzumiya, I fixed it for you. Hope you don't mind. -Sukecchi 23:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, then it must be typoed somewhere else, as I copied and pasted it. Well, welcome aboard, I hope! :)Sbloemeke 23:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm still trying to figure out how to tag article talk pages so as to include a redirect to it.
 * Check the talk page (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Haruhi Suzumiya), see if that's what you're after. I have the altered version sitting in my userspace and can copy it over to the main banner whenever. --tjstrf talk 21:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Genre Confusion?
This manga is classified as Seinen in the article, but is listed as both Shounen and Seinen in their respective articles. It is out of alphabetical order in the Seinen article, however, placed just below Sketchbook. Should this manga be classified both as shounen and seinen, or should it be removed from the shounen list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Relambrien (talk • contribs)


 * New comments at the bottom, sign comments with four tildies, please.
 * My bad, it was late at night and I ended up thinking I put it at the bottom and signed it when it turns out I didn't. Perhaps I shouldn't look at Wikipedia at 1 AM anymore. Relambrien 00:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Shonen and Seinen are not genres, but demographics. The manga runs in a shonen magazine, while the novels are in a magazine that sells to an older audience. I'm of the opinion that all of these words do not apply to light novels at all, but Western fans tend to like to apply them even when they aren't used by Japanese speakers. Doceirias 07:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears I confused the terms in my tired state, sorry about that. Considering what you said, should the demographic part be taken out of the article entirely? Relambrien 00:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That would probably just lead to edit warring. There are a few editors who reeeeally like those terms and can't be convinced they don't apply. I'd stick with seinen rather than shonen, since the novels are the original work here. Doceirias 00:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Music
I think the classical parts should be mentioned.

Rather said...I want to know which parts they are, there is no info to be found anywhere...
 * That information is already found at The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (anime).--  十  八  20:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Awesome! thx a lot i knew it must have been tchaikovsky