Talk:The Miracle of Bern

Football World Cup
I notice that the article refers, in one place, to the football World Cup. This looks wrong to me as the World Cup doesn't need qualification and is referred later in the article as simply (and the more naturally sounding) the World Cup. No qualification.

Naturally anything relating to football is emotional (incendiary?) so sensitivity before jumping in and editing is called for.

Also, is it true that everyone refers to the tournament simply as the (unqualified) World Cup? Or, is a qualifier required in some cultures? - Pat McDonald 16:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree with you there and since it's been half a year and no one has complained, I also changed it. Crito2161 17:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Football/Soccer Issue

I think in this article, football should be referred to as soccer, because most people reading this will refer to it as soccer, not the other type of football with an oval ball. Agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.116.124 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 5 February 2006


 * While it is confusing for American readers perhaps, most of the world does refer to association football simply as football. As there is no World Cup for North American football, and Germany has a tradition in association football (while not in North American football), I do not see the point in changing it.  I did however make a link to the association football page just to clarify.  Crito2161 17:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Mercedes-Benz
What does the following section have to do with the rest of the article?


 * Earlier on the same Sunday 4 July 1954, the "Silver Arrows" of Mercedes-Benz had made their comeback to Grand Prix motor racing, at the 1954 French Grand Prix in Reims, not too far away from both Switzerland and Germany. The design features and the performance of the new Mercedes-Benz W196 shocked the competition. The two main cars qualified and won 1-2 decisively, lapping the field, while the additional third car clocked the fastest lap. These cars would dominate racing until being retired at the end of the 1955 season.

Adding in the background information about the actual game makes sense but this has only the barest connection with the rest of the article, which is about the movie and has nothing to do with this race. I suggest it gets taken out, however I feel as if maybe I'm missing something as for why someone put it in. Comments? Unless someone says something, I'm taking it out. Crito2161 17:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Crito2161, I've removed it. The user who inserted it (user:Matthead) is fond of cars; very fond of cars. --die Baumfabrik 02:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, but the racing comeback on the very same day was definitively another sport success which boosted German spirit, and unlike the football team, the race cars kept on winning until retirement in late 1955. Imagine Ferrari returning with a 1-2 win from a 16 year F1 hiatus on the same day Italy wins the World Cup, and then dominating racing for years. -- Matthead discuß!    O       09:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

...his daughter flirts with his former enemies, American GIs...
How could she? Essen was part of the British, not the American occupation zone.

Am I, as it seems, really the first to notice that?

Verity Truth (talk) 21:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)