Talk:The Movies (video game)/Archive 1

Incorrect information
"It will be incredibly fun to make movies - something no other game has allowed you to do."

Not entirely correct - Microsoft released 3D Movie Maker for Windows in 1995, which essentially allowed you to create (albeit fairly basic) 3D movies. At least two variations were also release (Nickelodeon 3D Movie Maker, released in the US and UK, and the Doraemon Character Kit Expansion, released in Japan only). It has a thriving Internet community to this very day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Squirminator2k (talk • contribs) 09:38, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * While often forgotten and absolutely great, 3D Movie Maker was hardly a game, it is much more like an application. - Ferret 03:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

The Movies spans more than a century of film, from 1920 to 2010. - last time I checked 90 years were less than a century — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.10.170.239 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

In reply to above: 1920 to 210 is 90 years, duh. - A guest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.208.180.129 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

In reply to the reply above: That's what he/she said. "last time I checked 90 years were less than a century". OmegaX123 03:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Neutrality
I understand that this started off as an adaptation from the FAQ, but does anyone think we should neutralise it a bit and make it look like we're not trying to sell it? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.32.79 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 7 October 2005 (UTC) While we're at it, the 'external links' section has become a big advert for studios. Could we divide them into 'Official' and 'Player Studios'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.32.79 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Seconded--we need to put out a "casting call", so to speak, of people who've played this game and can give a more informed review; we can change it to be NPOV from there. Viewer 06:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Marked article as NPOV because of the disputed neutrality. --Yamla 19:48, 21 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Tried to tidy up the article a lot, but could someone please try to find a way to shorten 'System Requirements'. We don't need every single graphics card that works with the game, surely?  smurray   inchester ( User ), ( Talk ) 17:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Does the article still need the NPOV tag? smurray  in   chester  ( User ), ( Ho Ho Ho! ) 12:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Having read this for the first time today, it seems mostly free of personal opinion/bias and not worthy of a "neutrality disputed" tag.---Jackel 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I added the NPOV tag originally. I reread the article today and could not find any significant problems with it.  Going back and comparing with the article as it was on November 21, we basically have a completely different article.  I'll go and remove the NPOV tag.  Thanks, everyone!  --Yamla 20:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: The delayed release of the game. There was never an overhaul of the engine - it's rate of development continued at a steady pace. Originally players were intended to make short trailers with the game. A trailer would represent each movie the player's studio released. More than a year into development Molyneux pushed for the ability to make full-blown heavyily customised movie. This required a great deal more content [animation/scenes/models] and features than originally planned. Towards the completion of Fable (late 2004) the game was not being paid the attention it needed to finalise the movie-making and sim design. Around Chirstmas 2004 the game unwent a 'redesign' spearheaded by Molyneux. This didn't result in much of the sim design being thrown away, simply because there was close to none in the first place. Part of this redesign included the concept of putting information in bubbles instead on the HUD (called SITT [Super Interactive Tool Tips] internally, a phrase coined by Molyneux, which were also brought across to B&W2 late in development) and the concept of interacting with building by revealing their blue-prints and dropping charactera and objects on them. (Refer to the archive of screen shots on LH.com and gaming sites). It was these factors that most notably contributed to the prolonged development of the game. 87.81.125.8 16:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit Summary
Is it possible for an admin or similar to edit unsuitable edit summaries? The article history explains why. smurray  in   chester  ( User ), ( Ho Ho Ho! ) 11:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not sure but hopefully the next MediaWiki upgrade will wrap text to stop side-scrolling. --Thorpe 22:35, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Restructuring the Article
Does anybody else think it would be a major improvement if we separated the article into four sections (like the Business Tycoon aspect, Star Management aspect, the actual Movie Making part of the game, and the online community part of the game) --Nebmesch5 02:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


 * If you can successfully make it worthy of the Wikipedia, then it could work. However, the difficulty lies in not sounding like a review, advertisement or fanboy-esque rant. Crimson Shadow 01:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Stop editing what you don't know
Until Lionhead Studios OFFICIALLY cans The Movies for the 3 consoles, stop editing the page to make it a page of lies. I provided a link that said they need to find a new publisher. IT'S NOT CANNED YET. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.254.226.19 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Spelling and Grammar
There are more errors on this page then I have seen on any Wiki article in some time. I cleaned up a few of the more appaling ones, but I have a strong feeling that many still lurk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.192.21 (talk • contribs) 06:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Untitled
Shouldn't we mention that Starmaker thingy which came with the game? Crimson Shadow 01:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I WILL DO IT! Gewehr WAIT, NO I WON'T!

If someone will do the section, let me know and I'll get some screenshots. Otherwise I'll do both and it will be rubbish. ElGenius 18:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

hey i need help with this game i cant install it to win 7 can someone help??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.246.64.120 (talk) 19:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Radio personalities
What Does Lisa Lou like to talk about? I will try to find out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wakka092 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

DJs
I was just playing The Movies and Kristen Lou started DJing from mid-late 1991 instead of 1992. Is this correct, or does the DJ change vary from game to game? --RKingdom 22:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The DJ can appear a year or two earlier, depending on what inventions have been discovered. By uncovering a new invention earlier then expected, it can give you the capability of developing movies of a different style. This can prompt an earlier appearance of a DJ. 69.29.101.49 20:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Expandability and customization
The first person writing will be removed. This is an encyclopedic article, not a gamefaq. The entire paragraph needs to be cleaned up, it doesn't make a lot of grammatical sense "The Movies has many virtual and other "Easter Eggs", undocumented features, unannounced features, unannounced content, oddities, glitches inside "The Movies" including all current EP's patches. Something useful like a missing manual but not that comprehensive. Primarily for the benefit of movie making users but may also benefit game players."

I'm also questioning the necessity of the the "List" that is there. Your average reader isn't going to care that Joe Schmoe in Outer Mongolia was poking in a file and found a texture. If you want to create an easter egg list do so, but make sure they can be verified and they fit the definition of what is considered an easter egg. As it is the List serves no real purpose to this article. --Crossmr 19:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Acid Jazz
I haven't played this game but having the 1940s DJ play acid jazz can't possibly be right; look up acid jazz itself. They probably meant big band? Who knows. Perle 07:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

fansites
We need to look at shortening this list. have a look at whats occured on articles like The Sims 2. These lists can become too long if not checked, and wikipedia is not a link repository.--Crossmr 19:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Remember
You Dont Need To Start Every Sentence With Capital Letters Also If You Could Maek Sure Youre Spelling Is Corect And Your Sentences Sense Make That Would Also Be Aperciated As Well.

Seriously, I've tried my best to make the article readable. In future, could editors try to avoid writing gibberish like this:

"Despite the TMO Communites Expectations for a Third Movies Game. Lionhead is to Busy on The Dimitri Project and Fable 2 to consider working on another New Movies Expansion Pack. So far Lionhead dosent Consider realesing a 2nd Expansion Pack intill 2008 or 2009. Not intill they finish work on The Dimitri Project and Fable 2. Which should stop the hopes of TMO Community expecting a New Expansion Pack."

That paragraph sums up all that was wrong with the article; trying to make every word start with capital letters, poor spelling/grammar and basically it looks like it should have been written in crayon. I've tried my best to remove such idiocy, but I fear that some still remains hidden in the article. Crimson Shadow 22:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)\

Don't need to start every sentence with a capital letter? Do you mean every word, or do you need to go back to school? i mean, does this sentence look right? ElGenius 18:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Examples
Do you like the film examples I used for each genre? If you do, place your comments here. If you don't, don't bother editing this section!69.165.136.19 21:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it truly necessary? I'm doubtful as to whether or not it is. One thing I am sure of is that in the current form it doesn't fit in a sense. Crimson Shadow 22:10, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Crimson Shadow, whoever you are, I know your comment is heinous in MY views, but I am sure you have heard of the 1997 blockbuster Titanic 69.165.136.19 21:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Studio Buyouts
In the game can you buy out rival studios that aren't doing well financially? Can any of you Wikipedians answer that question? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.165.136.19 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Nope, you could not. TFX 06:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Activision did not publish Black & White
EA did. TFX 06:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Skinshack
Obviously very biased when reading most notably skinshack with an exclamation point. 8eyedbaby is bigger. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niftymatt (talk • contribs) 04:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC).


 * Apologies for 'ass' in the edit summary; should read 'add'. Stupid typo!! E. Sn0 = 31337 = Talk 04:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Can we stop with this stupidity. Removing 8eyedbaby as a fansite is ridiculous, when it's one of the biggest ones for TM. Leave the petty squabbles to the LH forums. This is not the place to give your ego a boost. Tarison 23:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm a disinterested third party. I say we allow both Skinshack and 8eyedbaby. However, labeling a link to one as the other should be expressly forbidden, as it is deception and therefore wrong. :) E. Sn0 = 31337 = Talk 00:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, completely agreed. I just don't want to see a return of the petty vandalism that took place earlier this month, which lead to someone completely removing the link to 8eyedbaby. Tarison 00:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Completely agree here as well. Feuds do not belong here. :) Nice to meet you, Tarison. :) E. Sn0 = 31337 = Talk 01:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Language
''The language spoken by the actors/directors is Simlish (a language spoken in The Sims and its sequel). Though this type of simlish language used in The Movies is slightly different from the one used in The Sims because the actors say the same sentence over and over again while acting.''

That should be changed, because Simlish is only spoken by the Sims, that's why it's called Simlish, and I think the term itself is a trademark of Maxis. So I'd rather use either Gibberish or Gobbledygook. Any objections? Valerius Myotis 21:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I think gibberish implies that it is words that can't be understood. They really just go "errrn er, errrrn" whereas simlish goes "Shplegen shplagan a tucalar." And that is how excessiveley I play those two games. ElGenius 18:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Prod for Cleanup
This article, in some places, reads like a walkthrough. It also has various grammatical problems. I'll work on it, but I would like for others to, as well. Thanks!

=David ( talk )( contribs ) 23:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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Wiki article or Instruction Manual?
When I read the Gameplay section of this article, I feel like I'm reading instructions on how to play the game. Especially from the line "Be sure to pay very close attention to the critics' reviews of that actor." Just seems out of place for a wiki article. --Cyber95 13:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Would "players are advised to pay attention to critics views, as it gives the player hints as to what they should do" of course, that's not a very good example, but something like that? ElGenius 18:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Screenshots.
1. Call me picky, but what is a picture of awards doing by the scripts section? 2. Could anyone please add more screenshots? ElGenius 18:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Premiere Edition
Someone should put more in about the Premiere Edition. 9 words is hardly enough for it's own topic. SamButton321 (talk) 21:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Expansions
Will there be anymore EP'S? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.35.158 (talk) 22:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Sequel
guy's they are making a sequel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.141.30.93 (talk) 01:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

AMD fuckup...no mention?
When this originally came out for the PC, it refused to work properly on a large percentage of PCs containing certain AMD processors, why is there no mention of this in the article, it's a historical piece of info.

I remember it well because at the time I had an AMD processor :-) 78.86.230.62 (talk) 23:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)