Talk:The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 06:21, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Prose
 * Background
 * "A writer of the website E! Online"..... please specify who this writer is if known, and just use E! in place of E! Online.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Promotion
 * "Gregory DelliCarpini Jr. of Billboard magazine praised" → "Gregory DelliCarpini, Jr. of Billboard praised"
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Concert Synopsis
 * Why is there a "2013" subsection if there are no other subsections within this section? Remove that bit.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * specify who the President is in "showed images of Beyoncé with the American President, taking part in charity work, moments with Jay-Z during a vacation and her 2013 performance at the Super Bowl". Not everyone will be able to automatically assume it refers to Barack Obama.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Critical reception
 * Boštjan Tušek of the website 24ur.com → Boštjan Tušek of POP TV.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Commercial performance
 * "NZ$99 to NZ$250" → "NZ $99 to NZ $250"
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * "AUD$40M" → "AUD $40M"
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * "On Pollstar's year-end chart of the top twenty grossing worldwide tours, from January 1 to December 31, 2013, The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour was placed at number 2 with a gross of $188.6 million from the 107 shows that were played during the given time period" is lengthy. Try something like "Pollstar ranked The Mrs. Carter Show at number 2 with a gross of $188.6 million from its 2013 shows on its year-end chart of top twenty grossing worldwide tours"
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Sourcing
 * Background
 * ref#8 (Daily Mail) is a tabloid that must be removed as WP:RSN has repeatedly declared it unreliable
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#9 (Beyoncé's website) is dead
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#10 (New York Daily News) is also a tabloid that should be replaced/removed (questionable reliability at best). It also is used excessively per WP:OVERCITE (used more than once in a row without any different ref's in between)
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref's #12 and #13 (Huffington Post) should be replaced- they're known for bias and fraudulence in things like politics, science, medicine, and celebs
 * ref#14 (Manchester Evening Standard) comes off as questionable (likely tabloid), I'd replace/remove it


 * Promotion
 * ref#17 (OK!) is a gossip magazine that should not be used
 * ref#18 (Huffington Post) should be removed per previous rationale
 * ref's #23 and #24 (New York Daily News) should be replaced or removed per previous rationale


 * Development
 * ref#27 (The Sun) is a tabloid that should be replaced/removed
 * ref#28 (London Evening Standard) comes off as questionable (likely tabloid), I'd replace/remove it
 * ref#29 (Metro) is a tabloid that should be replaced/removed
 * ref#31 (Daily Mail) should be removed per previous rationale
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#14 (Manchester Evening Standard) should again be replaced/removed per previous rationale
 * "The majority of the songs on the set list originated from 4; seven tracks were featured from that album. Several cover versions of other artists which were used as snippets to Beyoncé's own songs were also included." needs to be cited


 * Fashion
 * Per WP:OVERCITE, ref#36 should just be used after "The Blonds"
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#42 (Beyoncé's website) is dead
 * Removed dead link and added 3 new sources✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#44 (The Daily Telegraph) is dead
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#46 (People) contains what really comes off as an unneeded and excessively long quote and other unneeded trivia. I'd remove this.
 * Trimmed most of information but kept a comment from Weitzman ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#48 (New York Daily News) again needs to be replaced/removed per previous rationale
 * ref#55 (Daily Mail) needs to be removed per previous rationale
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#57 (Huffington Post) should be removed per previous rationale
 * ref#61 (Daily Mirror) is a tabloid that should be removed
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#28 (London Evening Standard) should be replaced/removed per previous rationale
 * ref's #64 and #65 (Beyoncé's website) are both dead
 * ref#66 (New York Daily News) once again needs to be replaced or remove per previous rationale


 * Concert synopsis
 * Per WP:OVERCITE, just use ref#67 (The Guardian) at the end of the "extended rumbling of timpani" bit
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Again, ref#27 (The Sun) is a tabloid that cannot be used
 * Once more, tabloids like ref#29 (Metro) shouldn't be used
 * Per WP:OVERCITE, just use ref#70 (Idolator) at the end of the "after with a Las Vegas showgirl-theme" bit, and at the end of the "vintage montage of Beyoncé" bit
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#28 (London Evening Standard) again should be replaced/removed


 * Critical reception
 * ref#72 (24ur.com) should simply read "POP TV".
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:19, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#81 (Daily Mail) absolutely cannot be used under any circumstances
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Per WP:OVERCITE, ref#82 (The Independent) should just be used after the "Gaze on it, ye pop mighty, and despair" bit.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#31 (Daily Mail) again is not reliable at all- remove this
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Per WP:OVERCITE, ref#67 should just be used after the "Beyoncé feels weirdly unassailable" bit.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've said it before and I'll say it again, ref#29 (Metro) cannot be used
 * ✅ by XXSNUGGUMSXX --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Per WP:OVERCITE, ref#70 (Idolator) should just be used after the "icon at top of her game" bit.
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#84 (Birmingham Mail) is a tabloid that shouldn't be used


 * Commercial performance
 * ref#87 (Us Weekly) is a gossip magazine that should not be used
 * ref#88 (Huffington Post) should be removed for previously mentioned reasons
 * ref#92 (Birmingham Mail) again shouldn't be used
 * ref#95 (Metro) again shouldn't be used
 * ref#109 (Metro) once more isn't a reliable source


 * Broadcasts and recordings
 * ref#117 (Beyoncé's website) is dead
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#119 (Huffington Post) should be replaced/removed for previously mentioned reasons (bias/fraud)
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ref#121 (Huffington Post) again shouldn't be used
 * ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Set list
 * There is a "citation needed" tag that should've been addressed before nominating for GA.
 * ref#125 (Manchester Evening News) should be replaced
 * ref#128 (New York Daily News) should once more be replaced/removed.
 * ref#129 (Beyoncé's website) is dead
 * ref#134 (globo.com) is dead, and also for some reason displays URL text when it shouldn't.
 * is ref#139 (Real Talk NY) really professional?


 * Shows
 * ref#155 (Metro) once more is not a reliable source
 * replaced ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 21:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * "Additional notes" is quite unreliably sourced (ref's 169, 170, 172, 174, and 176 aren't good sources), and frankly consists of lots of trivia.
 * I would argue refs are good sources (Time, BBC), however removed the less notable trivia only leaving the much larger and relevant stories ✅ --Lolcakes25 (talk) 21:28, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Coverage
 * No problems here


 * Neutrality


 * Stability
 * No problems here


 * GA Result
 * Due to the numerous issued mentioned above, this isn't ready for GA. I'm sorry to say that I must fail this. Too much tabloid/gossip use. Spend some time searching for more reliable sources, and cite all material. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 08:53, 30 April 2014 (UTC)