Talk:The Nameless Novel

Page 130
Do you think the text in page 130 is real? -Sam

Probably; why else would bits like 'Vice Principal ______' have been blanked. If the text was fake, it would have given nothing away. Smurrayinchester 08:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the excerpt is a real one from book the twelfth. I beleive if you figure out all of the blacked out words and right them down you will get a sentence. NOTE: They may need to be unscrambled. If this holds true and you find the answers please post them. Thank you, Mr. Holder

On this website pasted beside this text:http://www.lemonysnicket.com/missing.pdf. Copy and paste it QUICKLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE NAMELESS NOVEL'S REAL TITLE!! I think I found out the title!! I think it's "THE HORRID HOTEL" because on that website I pasted you see "Missing!" If you flip it twice(I think),zoom in and look at the top of the first page. You'll see a title and it looks like to me it says "The Horrid Hotel"!! I'm smart, I'm smart.....*doing my cheer dance*! :)-Bree


 * It looks like the missing words are: Middle (or centre or similar), (unknown; a character name), Mr. Poe, Hotél Denouement, Nero. None of these words seems to work as an anagram, nor can they be rearranged into a sentance. Good idea though. (Incidently, swapping tiles 2 and 8 of the triptych image shows Mr. Poe drilling the hole, but this could be coincidence). Smurrayinchester 13:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

It is actually tile three and eight of the triptych you switch (I tried two and eight and it didn't work)--Ķêļśēŷ

I figured out the title. It is "The Penultimate Peril". Sorry, but it is correct. :) Ali (n_ila92@hotmail.com

How'd you find that out??? ---Ķêļśēŷ

Cover
The US version of the books (pale cream woven effect cover) tends to have different cover illustrations to the UK/European version (Black-grey with smouldering ruins background). If so, is there a separate way to reveal the sections of these ones? No teaser cover has been released for the UK version.Smurrayinchester 13:56, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * There has been a teaser: . Squidward2602 16:05, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my mistake.Smurrayinchester 17:03, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

nameless novel
does anybody know who duncan quagmires favourite writer is. If you do please reply soon

It is Dorothy Parker! The last challenge had a question about her essays and it started "Duncan Quagmire's favourite author". What is the question about the opposite of starboard though? The answer should be "port" but there are 8 characters!
 * That would be "larboard". --Bryan Nguyen | Talk 19:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

September 25th Recipe
Does anyone know what the recipe given on September 25th is? I Googled the ingredients, but couldn't find what they make.


 * That was a recipe that was featured in Book the Eleventh, "The Grim Grotto". Lemony Snicket, Kit Snicket, Mrs Baudelaire, and Beatrice all know the recipe.

Cleanup
A lot of the stuff on this article, while important, is completely unencyclopedic and it must be cleaned up and/or removed. --Munchkinguy 02:32, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

i know i just deleted all this junk about kittens

Why was the page moved?
Why was the page moved, out of the blue, with no discussion or real reason (it was moved to Book the Twelfth(A Series of Unfortunate Events)/The Nameless Novel)? An anonymous user moved it back, and I moved back this talk page back to Talk:The Nameless Novel. If this NEEDS to be moved, can it be discussed? Squidward2602 16:43, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I (the anon who moved it back) believe that there's no reason for the page to be moved, and no reason for the title to include the "Book the Twelfth (aSoUE)/" part. "The Nameless Novel" is fine and concise as a title. --209.122.225.118 19:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

my kittens names are mocho and speedy. their funny names. giggles

Thank you, 209.122.225.118, for moving the page back. It didn't need to be moved. I agree with everything said. Squidward2602 14:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

The Taxi Driver
The Taxi Driver is a villain! The disguise kit for a taxi driver is in the autobiography! Is anyone thinking how I am? Please respond.

What taxi driver?


 * Presumably they mean Kit Snicket. I doubt she's evil, although it's possible. She is Lemony's sister, and he speaks about her well. If she was evil, there would have been references to her being so. If you mean the one from the Reptile Room, then it is possible he is in fact a volunteer trying to delay Olaf ('Not everyone wants to hear about your new baby!' Olaf said').  smurray   in   chester (User), (Talk) 09:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

if kit snicket was evil, why would lemony snicket write to her in book ten? they would have to be either both good or evil besides, if lemony snicket was on olaf's side, he wouldn't call him his enemy, would he?


 * Something just hit me. What if it's not really kit snicket? You say that taxi driver is a disguise, so what if it is a new recruit of olaf's-or anyone on a different side to the snickets on the schism-posing as Kit???? Oh, this could be disastrous!-Rachel

He means the taxi driver in this book, who offered to take the Baudelaires somewhere else.

The Title
On the 4th of October, there was a clue with a poster. At the bottom crossed out and faded was the title.

It looks like this. "The Hor   Hotel". This means it is probably "The Horrid Hotel".


 * Lots of users have seen this, and a number have edited the article to say that this is the name of Book the Twelfth. However, please note that on the poster this title is crossed out, and this is probably a red herring, which is all part of the "teaser" process. CLW 16:49, 4 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not too sure, but i think that apparently when Mr handler turned up to a book signing (mr Snicket was supposed to turn up, but Handler turned up instead to inform the public that mr snicket couldnt make it because he was elsewhere) he started to say the title, and it came out starting with P. But i'm not too sure about that. But if you flip the page upside down on Adobe acrobat, you can start to read what it says. The second paragraph, i think it starts with 'sadly', and also says 'dear' later on-maybe talking about his dear sister? if anyone can decipher the rest of it, please reply.-Rachel


 * It's almost entirely illegible. The first paragraph begins "There is nothing worse"; beyond that, all I can make out is "Egad!" (in quote marks); the second paragraph starts "Sadly, this was not the case"; the word you read as "Dear" I think is a date, "Thursday Dec. 17th"; the last line on the page seems to say "a truckload of hookers" -- Michael

The twelfth book title is 'The Penultimate Peril". -Ali

The Bears' Famous Invasion of Sicily
Does anyone else think that it's wierd that the October 1 clue goes to The Bears' Famous Invasion of Sicily by Dino Buzzati at amazon.com? and that on the back page of that book there are 2 quotes by lemony snicket and daniel handler that are almost exactly the same?

I think that either Dino Buzzati is also Daniel Handler-otherwise a good friend. Maybe the book was created to compliment ASOUE? I think that the name Lemony Snicket has only ever been used for ASOUE apart from that. I think it's fishy that Mr Snickets name turns up here. Isn't he supposed to be hiding, or running away, or something of the assortment?-Rachel

If you've ever listen to an interview from Daniel Handler, you'll know that the Bear's Famous Invasion of Sicily is a book that he read as a child and that it is onw of his favorite books and draws on it for inspiration. That's why he reviewed it and there's a link. He wants other people to read it too. He doesn't know the author or is the author. He just wants people to know about it. Who knows, maybe it has some clues?-Amy

Mr Poe - Widdershins - Ike
"Goodness!" He cried. "Golly! Good God! Blessed Allah! Zues and Hera! Mary and Joseph! Nathaniel Hawthorne! Don't touch her! Grab her! Move closer! Run away! Don't move! Kill the snake! Leave it alone! Give it some food! Don't let it bite her! Lure the snake away! Here snakey! Here, snakey snakey!"... "It's bitten her!" he cried. "It bit her! It bited her! Calm down! Get moving! Call an ambulance! Call the police! Call a scientist! Call my wife! This is terrible! This is awful! This is ghastly! This is phantasmagorical! This is-" The Reptile Room - Mr. Poe

Remind you of Captain Widdershins or is it a coincidense? Why did he leave while the Baudelairs were in the cave and then Mr Poe appears at the end?

Widdershins also relates to Ike, talking about his dear Josephine. If he was fleeing from the headquaters in the submarine?

Mr. poe could be Captain Widdershins.-muffin man

Wouldn't the Baudelaires have recognised him? Sure, they don't recognise Olaf's associates-but they heard Widdershins talk before they saw him and voices are recogniseable. Nice theory, though.-Rachel

The Baudelaires, when they disguised themselves, disguised their voice as well. His voice could be just as easily disguised!- muffin man

Even if the voice was disguised, you can't get rid of a never-ending cough- unless that was also fake.

Front Page
Who does everyone thik is on the front page? I think we clearly know there is: -Klaus -Violet But the top hat at the bottom looks like either Fernald (aka hook handed man) or mr Snicket himself. Which leads me to note- does anyone else have last years calendar? If you do-look at it. Someone is behind the baudelaires, holding a newspaper infront of their head titled "lemony Snickets", which leads alot of speculation that this is Mr Snicket-because violet is looking at him oddly. May i just add that on the US/Asutralian cover of book 8, Fernald is wearing the exact same hat, which makes it very confusing as to who is whom. I also think the person behind the fernald/snicket is none other than Count Olaf-just look at the terible hair! And behind him, their is another person in a top hat with dark hair could be either Mr Poe or the person featured in the Triptych. Plus (i just thought of this one) the short man across from the Olaf could be hugo the hunchback! and and lady could be colleen! Then there is the odd lady lurking on the right side-who is she? Also, there are the others, lurking at the top, all looking as scary and odd as the next. the man with a funny hat and dark eyes, the lady with long white hair? As you can see, im REALLY excited about the new book! I cant wait-Rachel

"Coleen" is not Coleen. Would coleen dress so fancy? Only Esme would dress like that

On this website pasted beside this text:http://www.lemonysnicket.com/missing.pdf. Copy and paste it QUICKLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE NAMELESS NOVEL'S REAL TITLE!! I think I found out the title!! I think it's "THE HORRID HOTEL" because on that website I pasted you see "Missing!" If you flip it twice(I think),zoom in and look at the top of the first page. You'll see a title and it looks like to me it says "The Horrid Hotel"!! I'm smart, I'm smart.....*doing my cheer dance*! :)dumb THE TITLE IS THE PENULTIMATE PERIL!!!!!!!!!!!iM SMART YOUR STUPID

Triplets
One of the options for Mystery the Third Part 6 is "impossible to break into and rescue kidnapped triplets" which possibly indicates that the Quagmire Triplets get captured.
 * I think that's unlikely. All the "correct" definitions on the Vernacularly Fastened Doors are quoted verbatim from the books, and that definition referred to when they were captured in The Vile Village. -- Michael
 * I agree with you, Michael, and I've removed this from the entry CLW 06:21, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The Quagmire triplets had already been previously captured. The option "impossible to break into and rescue kidnapped triplets" could refer to book 6, where they were in a cage, "impossible to break into and rescue kidnapped triplets."
 * Um, no; it's an actual quotation from book 7. I do know they were actually captured in book 5 and remained in captivity until book 7; I was just summarising briefly because I assumed anyone looking at this page would also already know that. -- Michael

You weren't the first one, besides, this may not be the title. The title to the twelfth book is "The Penultimate Peril."

For Beatrice
One thing I find fishy about the Beatrice dedication is the subject matter. All of the Beatrice dedecations have directly related to her death, however the new leaked dedication just talks about her house.... so what?

The Counterfeit Concierge
Has it occurred to anyone else that the clue "THE COUNTERFEIT CONCIERGE IS IN" could relate to Esmé Squalor?

secret page
when you have completed the cover click on the option keep me informed this will take you to a page about lemony snicket. On this page when you put you cursor over the words mr snicket often communicates it lights up. click on it and you get secret interview.

Cleanup
This article is in dire need of cleaning up, as it currently reads more like a solutions manual to a game than an encyclopedia article. I believe that the best course of action would be to remove these solutions, though unfortunately they appear to take up most of the article, and replace them with a section giving a summary of the types of puzzles and solutions involved in the site. To this I would add a section summarising the information revealed by completing the tasks, and an expanded description of the site and its significance. As I know very little about the site (only information gleaned from this article is known to me) I cannot take this task upon myself, so I hope there are others who are able to do this. --Constantine Evans 03:00, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Do we still need this?
Do we still need this page? The website is gone, and knowing the key to the mysteries is no longer of any use. The simple comment in The Penultimate Peril (The book's title was only revealed shortly before launch. Before that, it was simply known as The Nameless Novel, and readers had to find clues on a website and answer questions.) seems more than sufficient. smurray  inchester ( User ), ( Talk ) 18:28, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I have added most of the important information from the first paragraph of this article to The Penultimate Peril, and thus, since no one has objected to the merge proposal, I am merging the two. --Constantine Evans 07:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Dabify
Would anyone mind if I dabified this to various novels that are unnamed? Since the novel referred to by this article actually has a name...

unlike The Final Unfinished Voyage of Jack Aubrey which has no real title, since the author died in the process of writing the novel, before deciding on a title.

76.66.197.17 (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)