Talk:The Needles

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This page is over zealously linked. References to 'sea', 'cliff' and 'lighthouse' should be removed.


 * No, they shouldnt. If you read the pages on sea, cliff and lighthouse you'll find there's a lot of information extremely relevant to The Needles, which is not general knowledge. --Steinsky 11:00, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * (P.S., you can sign your name on talk pages with four tildes: ~ .)

The Needles Old battery
"The Needles Old battery was built on the cliff top above the stacks in 1861–63 to guard the West end of the Solent." Before we are told where the "Old battery" was built, wouldn't it be nice to know what the "Old battery" is? Xientist 00:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Voila! Hope it makes sense to you now. Naturenet | Talk 16:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
The Needles (chalk stacks) → The Needles – Disambiguation page was created which usurped the correct geographic name of this page and added a redlink to a band some hours ago. I have moved the disambig page to The Needles (Disambiguation), but am unable to move "Chalk Stacks" back to The Needles without admin assistance. Fiddle Faddle 08:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

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 * This page should not have been moved in the first place. The correct disambiguation page The Needles (disambiguation) should have been created and this page mad an entry in that.  "The Needles" is the correct geographic name for this location. I have created the disambig page with a correct title, but am unable to move this page back without assistance.  While we are always encouraged to be bold, moving The Needles without at least a talk page discussion was a bold step too far. Fiddle Faddle 08:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I did, however, mess up the creation of the disambig page by first creating The Needles (Disambiguation) and then moving it to The Needles (disambiguation), which may or may not cause problems with the move back. Apologies.  Fiddle Faddle 08:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I've moved it William M. Connolley 09:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

removed from Access section
I removed this text which is unencyclopedic:

Are visitors renting the Coastguard Cottages permitted to bring their vehicle? Clarification required.

--13:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Stacks?
What does this sentence mean exactly?

The Needles Old Battery was a military installation built on the cliff top above the stacks in 1861–63 to guard the West end of the Solent.

What is a stack? --Filll 14:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It is a term for a tall rock in the sea. Naturenet | Talk 17:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

17th century image
Discussion here on this, with pictures. Drutt (talk) 03:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Coordinate error
The following coordinate fixes are needed for

The Needles, in Google Earth's kml file

presently: 50°40'32.79"N (50.675776), 1°32'55.21"W (-1.548670)

should be: 50°39'45.15"N (50.662541), 1°35'22.90"W (-1.589694)

The present kml file appears to be someone's (home) address: 1 Woodlands, Totland Bay, PO39 0FE, UK and is over 2 miles from the Needles.

—Polemyx (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2011 (UTC) --Polemyx (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * (mostly) — The coordinates in the article were basically correct, resolving to a point about 400m north of the Needles. The reason you were taken to the wrong place is that Google, especially Google Earth but occasionally Google Maps as well, will take you to the wrong place even though provided with proper coordinates. It's a Google problem, not a Wikipedia problem. (If you'll look at the link text, you will see that it's Google, not Wikipedia that is generating the klm and that Google is being provided with the correct coordinates.) Google has been long ago informed of the problem but has not fixed it. By the way, if in GeoHack you'll use the "w/ meta data" link for Google Earth, rather than the "Open" link, it will (almost?) always work correctly. Acme Mapper and Wikimapia will always take you to the right location. I did improve the coords slightly (from 50.66611°N, -1.59111°W to 50.6627°N, -1.58933°W) so they point directly at the Needles rather than 400m off, but I note that the Google Earth "Open" link still takes you to Totland Bay. — TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 18:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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The article "the" in the name of the article
Shouldn't it be named "Needles"? There was a discussion about the Solent (link), how is this case different?--Adûnâi (talk) 00:53, 10 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think so. WP:THE mentions two conditions under which we might put "The" in front of the name:
 * If a word with a definite article has a different meaning with respect to the same word without the article, the word with article can be used as the name of a page about that meaning, and the word without article can be used as the name of a separate page.
 * If the definite or indefinite article would be capitalized in running text, then include it at the beginning of the page name. Otherwise, do not.
 * The Needles meets the first criterion in a way the T/the Solent does not. It arguably meets the second one too. Naturenet | Talk 07:07, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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Wrecks
Should known wrecks be included in the article? There is a category: Shipwrecks of the Needles, with four entries.  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  16:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a mention with any linked articles being strictly on topic to the Needles, not for example one of the four, SS Irex which was in Scratchell's Bay.SovalValtos (talk) 11:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Happy New Year, BTW. Tony.  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  14:49, 4 January 2022 (UTC)