Talk:The Network

Interview with Green Day in Q magazine
There was an interview with Green Day in Q during summer 2005 in which the interviewer talked with Billie Joe about The Network. He admitted that the members of Green Day are in fact The Network but denied that Money Money 2020 was actually the stolen/lost record Cigarettes and Valentines. So yes, I would say the cat's out of the bag. -St. Jimmy

I'd love to see a scan of such an article, as I do not believe it exists. Green Day has not publicly commented on the Network in years, and as far as I know have never confirmed their involvement. AHSports (talk) 17:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.greendayauthority.com/TheBand/articles/qmag_may05/pageseven.jpg

Lol I just read that and it's just the author saying The Network are easily indentifiable as Green Day. Billie admitted nothing.

Identity of Band Members
It is confirmed that at least Billie Joe Armstrong, and almost definitely Mike Dirnt and Tre' Cool, are members of The Network. The entire thing was some kind of publicity thing and Green Day knows they can't release a New Wave album as Green Day. It wouldn't be well received. See below and also see the Pinhead Gunpowder site.

VH1 Top 20 Countdown
I was watching the Top 20 countdown last month and the host kinda pretty much said that Green Day was the Network (he said Green Day has a side project know as The Network with two members of Devo) and then he went on how they would be opening some shows for Green Day, saying Green Day would come out as The Network and then go backstage to change. So I'm guessing cats out of the bag. --Saint-Paddy 00:30, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Devo
"The band consists of the three members of the band Green Day and two other musicians from the 80's band Devo"

I don't think there's any point in including the reference to Devo here, as they aren't mentioned again in the article, and other proposed identities of the remaining two members are covered later in the article, without providing any more basis for the Devo statement. The only "clue" perhaps would be that The Network's influences are supposedly Devo and Kraftwerk, and Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo has said a few times that he is fond of Green Day, but even that's not really any sort of way to confirm that he is involved in The Network.


 * Yeah, since nobody has offered anything to back this up, I'm going to remove the information. All of the members have been given possible names, and none of them include people from Devo. Stapler 9 42 (talk) 17:35, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Vegetarianism
Though it is a popular rumor, neither Billie Joe nor Mike Dirnt are vegetarians, as confirmed in a Q&A session on Green Day's Idiot Club (requires payment and registration). --Guess Who 18:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The Website
Now, it says Cumming Soon with a Network logo. New album perhaps? Toasty! &#124; Available at your local store 20:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Now it says Forbidden. 13:24, 12 March 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.2.132 (talk)

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Disbanded in 2004?
Um, really? Source, please? --House Boy (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Captain Underpants
Why the hell always delete him from the infobox member list? i put him almost 5 times and ever delete him, please don't do that!! he's a full member of the network!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.180.57.150 (talk) 18:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know why people are doing this, but i'll make sure it won't happen again. LukeTheSpook (talk) 20:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

maybe it seems to the deleter as vandalism ( imean, comon...Captain Underpants?)--Greenday21 (talk) 14:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC)Greenday21

The Network vs. Network
I think the reason they haven't made anymore appaerances is because there was another band called Network, and then Green Day became the Network.--C.R.Stinnett (talk) 23:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

iTunes Confusion
If you type in "the Network" on itunes it shows 2 bands both called the network. one is the new wave band that is on this article and the other is a heavy metal band with the exact same name. could someone please clear up my confusion?????99.139.234.11 (talk) 02:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This band is The Network. the other band is probally just ''Network. Itunes tends to mislabel stuff. LTS-sLither (talk to me) 02:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

the network(s)?
Crstinnett was right, but theres more then two. I have found at least six by the network name--Saint Fink (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal
This article completely lacks reliable sources, is full of original research, and doesn't seem notable at all. I propose a merge to Green Day related projects, as there's nowhere near enough information in reliable sources for this band to have its own article. Any notable information can easily be fit into the appropriate section in the related projects page. Tim meh  ! ( review me ) 00:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

It saves "space" (although I'm not sure space exsists on the internet, further proving my point if this is the case) to merge this article with the Green Day related projects one, but it doesn't exactly make sense. Green Day have never confirmed that they are the members of The Network (unless that Q article mentioned above exsists) so it wouldn't be accurate information to classify The Network in a Green Day related projects article. Gardenofgibson (talk) 21:39, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Number of Letters in Band Names vs. Real Names does not follow the same count rule suggested in article!
"It should be noted that their first and last names each have the same number of letters as the supposed member's real name."

I don't understand this claim. 'Fink' has 4 letters in it, 'Billie' has 6 letters, plus Billie Joe Armstrong has a last name. Also, 'Van Gough' is supposedly Mike Dirnt, and 'Van' has 3 letters while 'Mike' has 4 letters. Sure, 'Tre Cool' does follow this rule ala 'The Snoo', but that is the ONLY one that fits the rule!

Am I missing something?

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Wait... what?
I'm slightly confused here. Billie Joe Armstrong is a part of this and yet he denies being a part of it. Contradictory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.249.97 (talk) 03:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

He addimited it in an interview for "Bullet in a Bible" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.2.132 (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Green Day's Involvement Confirmed
Mike Dirnt confirms that they worked on The Network's 2003 album in this article: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/alternate-take/q-a-green-days-mike-dirnt-on-billie-joe-armstrongs-recovery-20130301#ixzz2MJBoTt1s


 * " ... we were working so hard, since [2004's] American Idiot. We haven't stopped moving forward: the [2003] Network record, Foxboro Hot Tubs, the [American Idiot] musical ... " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.51.130 (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

= WP:OR =

OK, let's be honest virtually all of this article is original research - "Tré Cool can be identified in several pictures (note the size and shape of the nose)". Some independednt verification of all these claims, PLEASE! Stub Mandrel (talk) 19:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on October 23 2017
The big block quote from Billie Joe Armstrong, starting with "I just wanted," isn't sourced and looks just made up. I Googled and mostly found mirrors of this page. Honestly, I think the person who added it got it from here, and that article is fanfiction. It needs a source because I'm pretty sure it's fictitious. 2602:306:BC31:4AA0:E5F7:E5A0:1D51:E51 (talk) 16:18, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I cut back the extended blockquote to what can be verified through reliable sources and cited it to Brian Boone, I Love Rock 'n' Roll (Except When I Hate It) Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on November 2 2018
There has to be a better way to word the lead section. In particular the phrase "although the band is speculated to be a side project of the punk rock band Green Day" as it makes it seem like there's uncertainty about if The Network has the same members as Green Day did at the time, when that's objectively the case and Green Day's statements to the contrary were just marketing. 2601:703:100:22ED:54AF:5413:AC04:A13A (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  05:22, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

The Network and their Green Day affiliation
Can someone with editing access take out the part in the The Network article where it says “ A secret side-project of punk rock band Green Day”? Also down on the associated acts it puts Green Day as well. This has been proven untrue, see this band claimed that they were friends of Green Day, however it has been denied by Green Day even so far as to call them a “fraudulent gang of masked dipshits” for trying to associate themselves with them. The full quote by Green Day drummer Tre Cool states “Speaking of SPAM... it has come to my attention that there is a European New Wave group pretending to be affiliated with @greenday. That’s wack. This fraudulent gang of masked dipshits are no friends of mine. Eat a bag of dicks @thenetwork and quit trying to poach our fans!!” If you are confused by the @(band name)s in the quote that is because it was on Instagram. Anyways basically what I’m saying is “can someone please take the parts about Green Day off of the Wikipedia page?” Leaving it on there would be misleading and untrue. Thank you for reading. Mastermasony (talk) 15:43, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Second album
Where did Sparky Renegade come from? They said it was titled Money Money 2020 II Arrowversefanatic2002 (talk) 17:36, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Devo 2
There is a discussion taking place over at the Devo talk page that concerns this page. If you want to take part in the discussion, please head over to the Devo talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Devo#Green_Day_side-project_The_Network Moline1 (talk) 00:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)