Talk:The Original Soupman

Two tense
@Soup Kitchen International was a ...:
 * Is it defunct? Later on in the article the present tense is used though.

Shinobu 00:08, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I was going to post the same question. Is it an is or a was? --Kiand 01:53, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The kitchen's website is still in fine form, so I've changed to is. Mark1 12:55, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 * of course, one of the problems with wiki (it has many) is that there's no attempt keep entries up to date - so nearly 20 years on, it doesn't appear to exist anymore... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:300:7520:7883:40A6:8C12:B729 (talk) 23:25, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

D'oh
I have Al Yeganah's autograph! (Actually, my friend gave it to me, and it might be a fake.) JaredW! 16:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I once saw an episode of Seinfeld which was about a soup place with a fierce owner! Sounds like this one!!! BaHaReep 02:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * This is who the Seinfeld episode is based on, genius. It has always said it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hndsmepete (talk • contribs) 06:04, 15 October 2006

Merger Proposal
I didn't put the merger tag on the Al Yeganeh article, but I can't think of any reason not to merge. Seems like a no-brainer, really -- I can't imagine that article being significantly expanded outside of the context of his Soup Kitchens. I'll put this page on my watchlist and if nobody comments to the contrary for a few days, I'll merge the content. --WikkiTikkiTavi 04:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Update and Reorganization
Since the original restaurant is now closed, I changed the tense in the lead sentence back to "was." After reading both the Soup Kitchen International and Original Soup Man websites carefully, it seems clear that the original location is -- alas -- defunct, and Al Yeganeh is devoting his energy on franchising and online product sales under the Original Soup Man brand. I also trimmed the famous "rules" to what can be documented on his websites. If anyone has a source for the rules I deleted, by all means restore them. Other than that, I added a couple of specific website links for sources and rearranged the paragraphs for better flow. I am not happy with leaving in the line about what supposedly happened if you broke the rules - it's unsourced and kinda weasel-like. But, it's also an important part of the place's mythology, so perhaps someone can improve it. --WikkiTikkiTavi 05:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Ashpazbashi
I know Mr. Yeganeh and/or his business has been called "Ashpazbashi" (allegedly "soup guy" in Farsi), but this is not mentioned in the article. Shouldn't it be? Also, his real first name is Ali, not "Al". This should be mentioned. Also, fwiw - I totally disagree with the decision to merge. With the defunction of Soup Kitchen International, Mr. Yeganeh and his ongoing enterprises are things far greater than that one business. At the very least, this article should be renamed to Ali Yeganeh (with redirects reconfigured appropriately, of course). 149.8.226.148 20:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I don't believe that he needs to be referred to as Ali. If you go to the Origional Soup Man website, you can clearly see on the logo that he refers to himself as Al. If he wishes to be know as Al, that's fine by me and I think it should be respected on Wikipedia. SpudHawg948 (talk) 11:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 12:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Nationality
Yeganeh is Iranian, there;s an interview with him on iranian.com. Also Yeganeh is an Iranian name, I can attest to, how does it even sound remotely Ukranian? Yeganeh means the only in Persian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.94.76 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 19 April 2008

Yeganeh moved
Where did Yeganeh move? His website says he left the United States. Badagnani (talk) 04:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Argentina? - .:. Jigsy .:. (talk) 20:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 21:45, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Soup Kitchen International → The Original Soup Man – The franchise and restaurant chain is the poignant detail at this point, not the original soup kitchen located in New York. The original restaurant should be mentioned in a history section, but should not be the central focus. D arth B otto talk•cont 18:04, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Mention on Johnny Carson?
I was watching a rerun of a Johnny Carson episode from Jun. 9, 1983. Actress Ally Sheedy mentioned a place that she thought was called "Al's Deli" that was "around 42nd Street" whose proprietor was known for hurling verbal abuse at his customers. If indeed she was talking about Al Yeganeh, this might well be the earliest mention of him on TV. - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)


 * There is a bit of a snag here, though... the episode was from 1983, but Soup Kitchen International apparently opened in 1984. I wonder if he had a different shop before then, or if the founding date of 1984 is incorrect. (The Carson episode is definitely from 1983; Richard Pryor had just filmed Superman III, and Ally Sheedy had just filmed WarGames.) - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

I found a video of this and here's a transcript of what she said:

"There's this deli in New York on like 42nd Street &mdash; somewhere around there &mdash; which is my favorite deli &mdash; I think it's called Al's Deli &mdash; but there's a man who stands behind the counter and yells at you when you come in, you know, so people crowd into this shop at lunch time to get abused by this man, who just stands and says, 'All right, yo, what do you want?', you know, and 'You, stand in line, what do you want?' and people just, you know, yell out their orders and things, and he just yells insults at them."

- furrykef (Talk at me) 03:21, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Soup Nutsy
There is a Canadian chain website called Soup Nutsy that was likewise (see their "About Us") inspired by Seinfeld's "Soup Nazi" episode...it is compared to them that Yeganeh is the Original Soupman...should they be mentioned?--12.144.5.2 (talk) 01:16, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Still in business as of 2022?
The website is down (404 error), and their Facebook page hasn't been updated in over two years. I'm guessing they closed shop. Why hasn't the Wikipedia entry been updated to show that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.148.1.164 (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2022 (UTC)