Talk:The Outsiders (American band)

Howard Blank is the original drummer for Tom King and The Starfires/The Outsiders

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Oops, I left off the tildes; I am the one who changed the rating from "stub" to B. Shocking Blue (talk) 12:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit in Later Records
I removed this sentence - "Following the charting success of their follow-up single "Girl in Love", which peaked at No. 21 in June 1966." - as it is not a complete sentence. I could not figure out how to make it work or what the exact original intent of the writer was - especially to the information which preceded it. If someone can make some sense of the original intention please feel free to put it back in.THX1136 (talk) 14:48, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Another Issue in "Later Records"
Concerning the mention of "Bend Me, Shape Me", is the 3rd song referred to in the sentence before it's mention intended to indicate this song? It's unclear if that is the case. I would have made an adjustment to reflect that intention, but was unsure if that was the accurate intent. The sentence could have been ". . . recorded another track, "Bend Me, Shape Me", by the same songwriters . . ." altering the next sentence to make it work with clarity. Any thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Issue in "Post Breakup" section
"He had suffered from multiple health problems and had been at the Wickliffe Country Place nursing home since he fell and injured himself in August." August when? Does someone have more complete information that can be added?THX1136 (talk) 15:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Legacy
The last paragraph “ In 2017, Ricky Biagiola assembled a group of veteran Cleveland musicians to return The Outsiders to playing the AM radio hits, with the energy and authenticity that made them successful then, and now. Determined to pay Tom King, and Sonny Geraci homage, The Outsiders have begun booking shows and tours throughout the United States for 2019.”

Seems self promoting and non-historical. The band broke up and most founding members are deceased. A revival of the band by one of the many former drummers does not constitute a continuation of the previous works of the original group. This paragraph needs to be rewritten....possibly authored by a member of the present group? Citations needed as well Bebfire (talk) 13:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Ms. Bebfire, I am unfamiliar with Wikipedia processes, but would like to mention to you regarding your edit. I am Ricky Biagiola, and I was asked to join the Outsiders when Starfires drummer Ron Harkai joined the military in the spring of 1966. I remained with the Outsiders, touring and recording for nearly 3 years, and played on albums 2, 3 and 4. In 2017, I obtained the abandoned Outsiders trademark legally with the United States Patent and Trademark office and curently own the name Outsiders as a performing musical group. A year later I reformed the band with myself being the only original member, and we are performing Outsiders shows when we can. There have of course been imposter groups calling themselves the Outsiders, but truthfully it is my group, and my reputation as the drummer of record and longest remaining member. My friends have passed away, and I just try to keep some of this music alive for the people that still remember it. To anyone who might question my honesty, the article itself is very close to completely accurate. There are haters out there, and I chose not to take that path. In the meantime, I wish you blessings, Ricky Biagiola 75.76.178.218 (talk) 19:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Years active
“By 1968, with band members coming and going, Tom King quit the group and Sonny Geraci was left to keep the band alive. In tandem with Walter Nims, the pair attempted to record, but a law suit was launched over the right to use the name The Outsiders, which King won in 1970. Geraci and Nims went on to form a new group called Climax.”

http://www.classicbands.com/SonnyGeraciInterview.html AND https://www.classicbands.com/outsiders.html

The claim that the Outsiders are still active is a big stretch. Self promoting for the new version of the Outsiders with no original members. But because of all the coming and going it’s difficult to say when the core band of the Capital Records signed artists of King, Nims and Geraci actually ended. This is to be determined however the above quote from an article from Sonny Geraci sounds like the band disbanded as the Band known as “The Outsiders” in 1970. Bebfire (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Ms. Bebfire, respectfully I disagree with your post saying "big stretch". I am Ricky Biagiola and was the original drummer of record with the Outsiders for nearly 3 years. I toured and recorded albums 2,3, and 4. It's all in the Wikipedia article. We have never met, and I don't understand the negative posts. I chose not to take the path of animosity.I have owned the Outsiders trademark as a performing musical group since 2019, and as an original member, not founding member, but an original member of the Outsiders, I am proud to try to carry on and represent some of the music that some folks remember. In the meantime, I wish you blessings, sincerely Ricky Biagiola 75.76.178.218 (talk) 19:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)