Talk:The Pennsylvania Society

Requested move 29 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 15:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

The Pennsylvania Society → Pennsylvania Society – WP:THE. PPEMES (talk) 11:42, 29 February 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. feminist (talk) 11:16, 9 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Not an expert on this topic but a quick perusal of sources seems to show that the guildeine in WP:THE about "When a proper name is almost always used with "The", especially if it is included by unaffiliated sources, the article "The" should be used in the name of the corresponding Wikipedia article as well" applies.  Sources seem to almost always include "the".  (Although a lot of refs in this article don't seem to have URL links for newspaper articles, alas...)  SnowFire (talk) 03:57, 2 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose. Sources (including primary sources) often include "the", in lower case, which tends to indicate that the Society does not regard the "The" as an integral part of its name. e.g. Year Book of the Pennsylvania Society of New York, although that may just be because of house style. There are uses of e.g. "a Pennsylvania Society dinner", so "The" is not mandatory. But the official name does seem to include the "The". 94.21.238.148 (talk) 07:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * See WP:OFFICIALNAME. It's irrelevant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ...not at all. OFFICIALNAME refers to WP:COMMONNAME, so the question is "is the name without 'The' a common name, moreso than the official name?" same editor as IP above 94.21.219.87 (talk) 17:07, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:THE: If the definite or indefinite article would be capitalized in running text, then include it at the beginning of the Wikipedia article name, which is the case based on the preponderance of sources. This also clearly agrees with the name as stated by the organization itself, so the burden of a different COMMONNAME would have to be higher, and its clearly not met that. -- Netoholic @ 20:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose clearly the move would reduce intelligibility. WP:CRITERIA WP:THE In ictu oculi (talk) 18:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


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